St. Cloud Brandisher in the Klink

[justaguy]

Who was this guys instructor?

[mnglocker]

There is no such thing as "Brandishing" in MN law.

Quick, everyone put that in your pipe and smoke it. Don't give the left any ideas on laws to add/write.



However, we do have terroistic threats, and 5th degree assault.

[Bessy]

There is no such thing as "Brandishing" in MN law.

Quick, everyone put that in your pipe and smoke it. Don't give the left any ideas on laws to add/write.



However, we do have terroistic threats, and 5th degree assault.

I should have specified this more clearly... you are correct, I was using the term to brandish to represent pulling out your gun and waving it around, not to describe what they would charge you with if you get it wrong. It is considered a use of force. That's what I was getting at. They are going to charge you with assault, what degree is highly dependent on what your gun is pointed at. They can always throw in "terroistic threats", as for what that constitutes, you might want to talk to a lawyer because they seem to pull that sucker out at random.

[justaguy]

I should have specified this more clearly... you are correct, I was using the term to brandish to represent pulling out your gun and waving it around, not to describe what they would charge you with if you get it wrong. It is considered a use of force. That's what I was getting at. They are going to charge you with assault, what degree is highly dependent on what your gun is pointed at. They can always throw in "terroistic threats".

Forgive and forget.

[DeanC]

Who was this guys instructor?

I'd be interested in that too. He did have a permit. I guess he wasn't up to the responsibility.

The suspect did have a permit to carry his weapon in public, said police Sgt. Martin Sayre.

Officers pulled over and arrested the suspect. A loaded gun was found in the vehicle as well as his weapon permit.

[John T]

ain't worth my time

[DeanC]

I seriously doubt he had a permit! We'll have to wait before we speculate.

I'm not familiar with St. Cloud, is police Sgt. Martin Sayre an habitual public liar?

[chunkstyle]

Sometimes permit status is incorrectly reported. It's often the case that the "permit" turns out to be a P2P,not a P2C.

[John T]

Right, What permit was it,,besides the report is from the trib, no Liberals there,,?

[thunderoussilence]

I am under the assumption if someone sees my weapon,they call the cops that it could be interpeted as Terroristic threats ?

[macphisto]

I am under the assumption if someone sees my weapon,they call the cops that it could be interpeted as Terroristic threats ?

People interpret things the wrong way all the time, but there's a big difference between someone seeing your weapon and you showing them your weapon.

[1911fan]

The only acceptable use of a "brandished" firearm, (which I do not think legally exists here, but I digress) is to stop or prevent a crime in progress, or which in all likely hood will happen without your intervention.

I am not one of the "If I pull it I am going to shoot it" crowd, but I am darn close to that. I have to feel that unless I intervene by drawing, a violent felony will occur with no other form of resolution readily apparent.

[Bessy]

People interpret things the wrong way all the time, but there's a big difference between someone seeing your weapon and you showing them your weapon.

Bingo... we have a winner.

[EJSG19]

I am under the assumption if someone sees my weapon,they call the cops that it could be interpeted as Terroristic threats ?

Terroristic threats as said before is being used pretty often as an umbrella charge. Conceivably yes, your scenario could happen. But you telling someone "Eff You" could too.

Sounds like road rager made the cutoff, got lights flashed (road rager reads as escalation) then road rager stupidly tries to win peeing contest by flashing a weapon.

Depending how you spin it, neither party is to be held blameless. But the gun flasher is obviously the most out of line. Like in grade school, the one who takes it the furthest is usually the one that gets punished.

[Squib Joe]

Who was this guys instructor?

And his BeamHit instructor?