What .22 to buy?

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Re: What .22 to buy?

Postby mnglocker on Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:32 am

I'm just going to rub it in that I picked up a nicely restored Remington 241 SpeedMaster yesterday via MGT Field Trip #2 to Morristown. :P
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Re: What .22 to buy?

Postby RAGGED on Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:27 am

goalie wrote:
If you go to therapy, you might be better at dealing with the fact that not everyone agrees with your opinion that tricking out a 150 dollar 22 is the best thing to ever happen to small-bore shooting. Then you can stop projecting red herrings in order to justify your expensive 10/22.


Really, grow up and get sense of humor. If I wanted to make it look like you said something I wouldn't have made it so blatantly obvious. I’m sorry the sarcasm was lost on you. From here on out I will never assume you to be of average inelegance, my bad.


***Fake quote with obscene remarks removed***
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DeanC wrote:If those jackasses at Ruger had any marketing sense at all, they would sell stripped 10/22 receivers.


I'm pretty sure they do or did. Its been a few years since I've played with the little guys but I’m pretty sure there were a few places selling new stripped Ruger receivers, but if I remember correctly they were close to $100 and I always found it better to just buy a nice base model used rifle instead because they could be had for $100-150. With FFL and shipping it wasn't worth buying. If I ever wished to build one I would do so on an aftermarket receiver.

On a side note, I never really understood the complaints about Ruger 10/22’s, they are cheap **** guns, damn near the bottom of the barrel when it comes to autoloaders. I sure as hell wouldn’t go buy a Kia and expect it to perform like a Corvette, it’s really no different. You gotta pay to play, or buy used, lots of killer deals on used guns if you keep an eye out. If you buy a $200 semi auto 22 and expect it to perform as well as a $400 bolt gun then you may want to find a new hobby lol That level of disconnect from reality is often reserved for left wing politicians.
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Re: What .22 to buy?

Postby plblark on Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:39 am

Ragged,

You post some good information, why the childish trolling and misattributed quotes. Completely out of line IMnsHO
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Re: What .22 to buy?

Postby EJSG19 on Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:44 am

plblark wrote:Ragged,

You post some good information, why the childish trolling and misattributed quotes. Completely out of line IMnsHO


Agreed. The guy said he found it offensive. Let it be, maybe even go so far as to apologize. Not a big deal.

People aren't required to subscribe to someone else's brand of humor. I wouldn't call this stuff humor, in the current context.
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Re: What .22 to buy?

Postby Paul on Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:46 am

RAGGED wrote:***Fake quote with obscene remarks removed***

How uncouth.
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Re: What .22 to buy?

Postby RAGGED on Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:04 pm

plblark wrote:Ragged,

You post some good information, why the childish trolling and misattributed quotes. Completely out of line IMnsHO



I only did that because he was making it sound like I had already done so, which I had not. I had to properly illustrate what could be done if someone truly wished to misattribute a quote.

If people can't have a sense of humor then there is really no point in posting.
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Re: What .22 to buy?

Postby Paul on Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:08 pm

RAGGED wrote:I had to properly illustrate what could be done if someone truly wished to misattribute a quote.


Well done.
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Re: What .22 to buy?

Postby plblark on Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:10 pm

so the ends justify the means, it was a trap and you sure showed him, eh?

Look, try this: search Goalie, 10/22 and crap ... this thread is going to come up.

you were misinterpreting and misattributing what he said. I saw the smiley, I may have chuckled. He expressed his displeasure, you went on to lecture him on humor (when has that ever worked with ANYONE?) and then to "show" us what is possible you outright fabricate a quote. you sure showed us.

I'm pretty sure the majority here could figure out to mis-label a quote. Most of us have the decency not to do so or to be VERY obvious when we're doing so in jest.
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Re: What .22 to buy?

Postby RAGGED on Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:35 pm

plblark wrote: Most of us have the decency not to do so or to be VERY obvious when we're doing so in jest.


Well he should have had the deceny not to accuse me of something. If my first post wasn't VERY obvious then I don't know what is.
It's clear the guys reading comprehension is not the greatest, he keeps talking to me about some mythical 10/22 that I spent a ton of money on when I clearly said I had $200 into the thing, he even quoted me as saying such in a previous thread only to post in here

goalie wrote: Then you can stop projecting red herrings in order to justify your expensive 10/22.


I don’t know about you, but if I quoted a guy saying he spent $200 on a rifle I wouldn’t go after him the very next day saying hes trying to justify an “expensive 10/22” Doesn’t make sense to me.
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Re: What .22 to buy?

Postby Paul on Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:38 pm

I thought you said you paid $200 for it, but the original owner had $1,600 invested into the gun in the form of upgrades.
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Re: What .22 to buy?

Postby 1911fan on Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:40 pm

The subject is not worth a pissing match.



if you read what your both posting, you might find you agree with each other. but are looking at it from opposite ends.


10/22's when they came out were something special, they were reliable, more accurate than most .22' auto;s and were small enough that kids were not over powered by them size wise. Go to a gun shop and compare a 552 rem or a springfield auto with a 10.22, the ruger is substantially smaller, In the last few years, Ruger has seriously decontented the package, with plastic trigger groups, cheaper mags, and painted metalwork. I have 3 or 4 10/22 and they are what they are, good solid fun guns to plink with. I have added nothing to any of them except sling swivels and frankly for my needs they were stay stock.
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Re: What .22 to buy?

Postby plblark on Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:44 pm

RAGGED wrote:It's clear the guys reading comprehension is not the greatest, he keeps talking to me about some mythical 10/22 that I spent a ton of money on when I clearly said I had $200 into the thing, he even quoted me as saying such in a previous thread only to post in here

goalie wrote: Then you can stop projecting red herrings in order to justify your expensive 10/22.


I don’t know about you, but if I quoted a guy saying he spent $200 on a rifle I wouldn’t go after him the very next day saying hes trying to justify an “expensive 10/22” Doesn’t make sense to me.



What is the replacement cost of that 10/22 that shoots that well? Barring someone lucking across a sweet deal, what would they pay, off the shelf and in components to make it work like yours does? $200? $1600? More?

Does that make your 10/22 effectively a relatively expensive rifle which you happened to get a good deal on as opposed to the average 10/22 which is much different and very decontented in recent years?
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Re: What .22 to buy?

Postby RAGGED on Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:46 pm

user842 wrote:I thought you said you paid $200 for it, but the original owner had $1,600 invested into the gun in the form of upgrades.


Correct, I got one hell of a deal on it so why on earth would I ever have to justify anything lol


I still say there should be rimfire shoot, it would be fun as hell, EVERYONE has one and unlike centerfire you don't have to be a master at the black art of handloading to come up with the magic load.
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Re: What .22 to buy?

Postby DeanC on Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:56 pm

RAGGED wrote:I still say there should be rimfire shoot

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Re: What .22 to buy?

Postby RAGGED on Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:03 pm

plblark wrote:
What is the replacement cost of that 10/22 that shoots that well? Barring someone lucking across a sweet deal, what would they pay, off the shelf and in components to make it work like yours does? $200? $1600? More?

Does that make your 10/22 effectively a relatively expensive rifle which you happened to get a good deal on as opposed to the average 10/22 which is much different and very decontented in recent years?


I get what you’re saying and you are right on. But honestly I see deals like that more often than you would think on Gun Broker. I use to be into high performance cars, and anyone who’s into that knows when you put aftermarket parts on it doesn't add jack to the resale value, pennies on the dollar, same thing with 10/22's. The recipe for a killer low budget 10/22 is simple. Search Gunbroker, find one with all the bells and whistles and (this is the key part) has nice optics on it. You might pay $700-800 but you can then turn the optics around for $400-500 and bingo! Being the guy that originally builds it sucks! This all assumes you’re ok with a used rifle and want to take that risk. Going new I would never go with a 10/22, complete waist, and I said that much in the other thread, doesn’t mean you don’t end up with a killer rifle either way.
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