Where to buy new guns at the best price?

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Re: Where to buy new guns at the best price?

Postby Squib Joe on Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:56 pm

Tutmos wrote:That's a new in box nite hawg?

Yes. I have two new pistols in stock at that price.

Tutmos wrote:If so that's a good price.

It can happen ;)

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Re: Where to buy new guns at the best price?

Postby Aceq2jot on Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:03 pm

Once i was at gander mountain in woodbury and they told me that if i printed the webpage from buds they would match the price + transfer fee which i believe is $35 at gander. You could always try that, or talk to Ryan over at Bills North as he takes good care of his customers and is always eager to get a new one, and he will tell you if he can come close or not.
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Re: Where to buy new guns at the best price?

Postby mnxd9 on Sat Oct 27, 2007 9:06 pm

Something to keep in mind, Gander Mountain will price match, if you can prove a price, from a local retailer with the gun in stock. Providing you want to jump through those loops. :| I can't ever seem to find exactly what I'm looking for when I feel impulsive, anywhere, probabaly a good thing :mrgreen:

CDNN has had some of the best prices on a few guns. (It's a good thing impluse buys don't apply to internet orders, to me anyways, if I can't hold in now, I'll talk myself out of it)
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Re: Where to buy new guns at the best price?

Postby aypstony on Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:48 am

I have purchased a couple of firearms from Brad at the link below. He doesn't have a "shop" to go to, so you have to set up an appointment. You pretty much have to know what you want before you meet. Prices seem pretty reasonable.

http://www.davidsonsinc.com/consumers/s ... _id=978710
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Re: Where to buy new guns at the best price?

Postby Tutmos on Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:30 pm

Is there something special I need to do to to send replies to private messages? I've been trying to send a couple replies to Andrew Rothman from this thread and they both just stay in the Outbox. Andrew if you notice this feel free to email me at aspi@winternet.com I have a few questions for you.

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Re: Where to buy new guns at the best price?

Postby ttousi on Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:37 pm

Tutmos wrote:Is there something special I need to do to to send replies to private messages? I've been trying to send a couple replies to Andrew Rothman from this thread and they both just stay in the Outbox. Andrew if you notice this feel free to email me at aspi@winternet.com I have a few questions for you.

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IIRC they will stay in your outbox until Andrew logs in .........then they will transfer to him.
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Re: Where to buy new guns at the best price?

Postby cobb on Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:39 am

There are deals to be had at gun shows,,,sometimes.

Like this, new in box for $400.00 - http://www.savagearms.com/10gxp3.htm , it was in 22-250.

That was the price that I had on it at 2 gun shows and still couldn't sell it, I thought it a good price, but I guess most thought not.
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Re: Where to buy new guns at the best price?

Postby chunkstyle on Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:27 am

For surplus (and a few new ones), I go to:

http://www.jgsales.com/

or

http://www.aimsurplus.com/
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Re: Where to buy new guns at the best price?

Postby Tee on Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:08 am

onebohemian wrote:
Aceq2jot wrote:
Pat wrote:Give gunbroker.com a "gander..." It's the eBay of the gun world. You'll still have to ship to a MN FFL, though. Plan to pay the transfer fees, state tax and shipping. Depending on the gun, I have come out considerably ahead a number of times.


Also try Budsgunshop.com They seem to be pretty cheap on everything.


All the Paras Bud's has: http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/53

All the Bushys: http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/60

Free shipping (although it's partially worked into the prices). Still hard to beat. Have them shipped to Burnsville Pistol Range. Bud's already has BPR's FFL on file so you don't have to mess with that. BPR charges $15.00 per transfer.




Does BPR then charge state sales tax?
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Re: Where to buy new guns at the best price?

Postby plblark on Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:56 am

they're not making the sale, that's between you and Bud's. Legally, there's a way for you to report the purchase you made and pay the sales tax ;-). BPR or any other FFL is just doing the transfer as required by law.

I don't work for BPR or any FFL, this is just my understanding of the way it works.
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Re: Where to buy new guns at the best price?

Postby Tee on Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:23 am

plblark wrote:they're not making the sale, that's between you and Bud's. Legally, there's a way for you to report the purchase you made and pay the sales tax ;-). BPR or any other FFL is just doing the transfer as required by law.

I don't work for BPR or any FFL, this is just my understanding of the way it works.



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Re: Where to buy new guns at the best price?

Postby Tutmos on Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:47 am

Correct, they added a line on the tax return to report all purchases across state lines that had no sales tax paid on it.

I'm still not sure what the supposed basis for this is since state sales tax is supposed to be taxing the company for the benefits of, in our case, Minnesota services like police, social services for workers and so on. The standard was that your company had to have a physical presence in the state, such as a sales office, a service center or essentially any employees within the state in order to add sales tax. This is probably a great example of the evils and true nature of government. They saw money out there that they could steal so they changed the moral, supposed truth, justifying the previous taxation and created a new one because they wanted a piece of that money too. It's like teenagers with a no limit credit card.
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Re: Where to buy new guns at the best price?

Postby onebohemian on Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:33 am

Tutmos wrote: . . . This is probably a great example of the evils and true nature of government. They saw money out there that they could steal so they changed the moral, supposed truth, justifying the previous taxation and created a new one because they wanted a piece of that money too. . . .


I suspect one of the reasons behind collecting sales tax for out-of-state purchases is simply to encourage residents to purchase from their resident brothers and sisters, thereby keeping our state's economy strong. The internet might be great when you're trying to save a buck, but I have to believe it's a bear to tangle with when your a mom & pop gun shop (craft store, music store, hardware store, clothing store, electronic's store, book store, etc.). Of course, the flip side is that this discourages residents from patronizing out of state business, but I'm not sure that's inherently evil or a sign of big government holding all of our hands or being greedy.
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Re: Where to buy new guns at the best price?

Postby Dick Unger on Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:06 am

The sales tax is supposed to be a tax on the CONSUMER, not the retailer. (The retailer is required to collect but you owe it anyway, in theory.) The law requires most businesses to separately state the sales tax on all receipts, with a few exceptions, (ie vending machines ect.) .

If you are a Minnesota consumer, with disposable income you decide to spend, you legally owe the tax on things you bring into the state, whether the retailer collects it or not. They don't enforce this for small sales, but they could.

I was once billed for past due sales tax for supplies purchased from a CA company two years after I had paid and received the goods. A few hundred dollars of sales tax was at issue. Somehow Miinesota found out about the purchase. Minnesota sued the CA company for not collecting Minnesota taxes. They threatened to turn ME in to the Minnesota Department of Revenue if I did not pay my tax, which they were supposed to collect, but did not.

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Re: Where to buy new guns at the best price?

Postby Tutmos on Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:30 am

That's a change from the way I remember it 10 odd years ago. I was always given the impression that the tax, although it may have been directed at the consumer, was supposedly for the benefits the State provides to doing business in the state, not just some unreasonable tax simply because we want more of your money but don't have any real claim to why we should get it style sales tax.
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