Man from Savage faces federal charges of possessing machine

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Re: Man from Savage faces federal charges of possessing machine

Postby Pat Cannon on Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:04 pm

As I said elsewhere recently, when I was in college I don't remember anybody saying, "I can't decide between quantum physics and journalism".
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Re: Man from Savage faces federal charges of possessing machine

Postby bstrawse on Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:51 pm

Pat Cannon wrote:As I said elsewhere recently, when I was in college I don't remember anybody saying, "I can't decide between quantum physics and journalism".


I'm stealing this quote.
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Re: Man from Savage faces federal charges of possessing machine

Postby farmerj on Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:20 pm

Pat Cannon wrote:
Federal law prohibits any person from possessing any type of machine gun.

Sigh.



More like a face palm.....

and I don't want to find a face palm for it, it's so pathetic.
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Re: Man from Savage faces federal charges of possessing machine

Postby bstrawse on Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:59 pm

Update to story:
http://www.savagepacer.com/news/police/ ... arrest-106

I had some correspondence with the reporter and the editor about some of the mistruths in their original story - most of which they corrected going into the second story.

I guess writing to the press in smaller towns helps ;)
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Re: Man from Savage faces federal charges of possessing machine

Postby WWJD on Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:30 am

And while a 24-hour surveillance operation continued for three days, authorities didn’t say much to neighbors about what was going on.


Remedial math anyone? Forget journalism skool.
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Re: Man from Savage faces federal charges of possessing machine

Postby DeanC on Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:32 am

3 eight hour shifts? ;)
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Re: Man from Savage faces federal charges of possessing machine

Postby bensdad on Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:50 pm

Clearly, the author meant, "...around the clock surveillance continued for three days."
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Re: Man from Savage faces federal charges of possessing machine

Postby JFettig on Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:37 pm

macphisto wrote:
Pat Cannon wrote:
Federal law prohibits any person from possessing any type of machine gun.

Sigh.

The sentence before that, too:
On June 10 Banks was charged by criminal complaint with possessing an AR-15 machine gun.

I'd prefer to see good writing that doesn't further public ignorance; something like, "...an AR-15 semi-automatic sporting rifle illegally modified for automatic fire."


There is such thing as a select fire AR-15.
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Re: Man from Savage faces federal charges of possessing machine

Postby White Horseradish on Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:15 pm

JFettig wrote:There is such thing as a select fire AR-15.


Does it stop being an AR-15 if somebody modifies it to FA?
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Re: Man from Savage faces federal charges of possessing machine

Postby 1911fan on Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:22 pm

That used to be the semantics, an AR was semi, M16 was full auto. At some point, those lines have crossed, particularly when the military has had some semi or burst only models with the M16 designation.
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Re: Man from Savage faces federal charges of possessing machine

Postby White Horseradish on Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:23 pm

1911fan wrote:That used to be the semantics, an AR was semi, M16 was full auto. At some point, those lines have crossed, particularly when the military has had some semi or burst only models with the M16 designation.


Oh, I know. But that applies to guns made that way. We're talking a conversion, which could be even a filed-down sear (nobody said it was a safe FA gun). In the same vein, does an M-16 with the FA parts removed stay an M-16 or become an AR-15?
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Re: Man from Savage faces federal charges of possessing machine

Postby farmerj on Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:25 pm

White Horseradish wrote:
1911fan wrote:That used to be the semantics, an AR was semi, M16 was full auto. At some point, those lines have crossed, particularly when the military has had some semi or burst only models with the M16 designation.


Oh, I know. But that applies to guns made that way. We're talking a conversion, which could be even a filed-down sear (nobody said it was a safe FA gun). In the same vein, does an M-16 with the FA parts removed stay an M-16 or become an AR-15?


according to ATF...

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Re: Man from Savage faces federal charges of possessing machine

Postby JFettig on Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:57 pm

White Horseradish wrote:
JFettig wrote:There is such thing as a select fire AR-15.


Does it stop being an AR-15 if somebody modifies it to FA?



Way way way back they made select fire AR-15s, early AR-15s, some of them are even C&R transferable. They do say AR-15 right on them, I think the one I got to handle said both Colt and Armalite on it if I remember correctly.

I am not sure of the history of this one, but you can see the autosear pin hole and ar-15
http://media.photobucket.com/image/colt ... yfeAyJ.jpg


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