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What is the FASTEST way to pull bullets?

Postby Shipyard on Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:58 pm

so -i bought a "race" gun this morning. i'll get to that later... but the guy aid he had "a few" hand loads for it. what this turned out to be, was several HUNDRED rounds of each TYPE of hand load he had worked up.

i'm sitting here staring at about 982 rounds of 38 super that some dude loaded up. i just spend about 10 minutes with my bullet puller, looked at the pile, then decided to hit the budweiser and ask if there's a better way to do this.

damn son... i'm going to need a giant bottle of advil if i gotta pound all these suckers out with a cheap azz cabelas bullet puller...

and now back to the budweiser.

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Re: What is the FASTEST way to pull bullets?

Postby Rem700 on Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:51 pm

Collet bullet puller.
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Re: What is the FASTEST way to pull bullets?

Postby gyrfalcon on Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:26 pm

Ditto to the above, if you have a progressive with a case feeder it'll increase the speed. My 2ccents... If he reloaded that much, maybe they're good re-loads? Wouldn't hurt to sample pull and test a few rounds. The fastest way to pull most bullets is to fire them. I just blew off a lot of 9mm that was undercharged.
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Re: What is the FASTEST way to pull bullets?

Postby EJSG19 on Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:37 pm

its about as tedious as prepping rifle brass

makes a guy wish he made double the money he did, and just buy it all ready to go
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Re: What is the FASTEST way to pull bullets?

Postby EJSG19 on Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:38 pm

gyrfalcon wrote:Ditto to the above, if you have a progressive with a case feeder it'll increase the speed. My 2ccents... If he reloaded that much, maybe they're good re-loads? Wouldn't hurt to sample pull and test a few rounds. The fastest way to pull most bullets is to fire them. I just blew off a lot of 9mm that was undercharged.


you can sample a batch of reloads with 98% consistency and 2% squibs/double charges. I'll pass thanks.
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Re: What is the FASTEST way to pull bullets?

Postby gyrfalcon on Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:42 pm

EJSG19 wrote:you can sample a batch of reloads with 98% consistency and 2% squibs/double charges. I'll pass thanks.


Yeah it's completely up to the person shooting the reloads. Do what you think is best given the circumstances.
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Re: What is the FASTEST way to pull bullets?

Postby Shipyard on Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:06 pm

sigh - i know. the dude was very meticulous. he gave me a HUGE notebook full of all his load development over the years for competition. but still - i don't like the idea of pulling triggers in on someone else s loads. never know how many natty ice cans ended up on the floor during the process :?
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Re: What is the FASTEST way to pull bullets?

Postby Gecko, Extra Crispy on Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:11 pm

pics of the new gun!

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Re: What is the FASTEST way to pull bullets?

Postby Seismic Sam on Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:15 pm

Well, the real question is: Did all that ammo come with labels saying what the recipe for each one was?? If the answer is NO (and I'd be shocked if it was, but it's still possible, as we all know... :roll: ) then you have no choice whatsoever, and you have to pull everything. Even if the guy knew what he was doing, not labeling EVERY box of ammo is unforgivably sloppy, which of course makes you question how carful the guy was loding up the stuff in the first place.

If it IS labeled, then you can consult some loading manuals and see if the stuff is within the reccomended limits or not. The problem here, of course, is that evrybody knows that 38 Super ammo gets hot-rodded 3 ways from Sunday to make Major PF, so it's better than even money these may be hot loads.

Next, what kind of brass is used in these loads? Actual 38 Super brass, 38 Supercomp brass, 9x23 Supercomp brass, or 9x23 Winchester brass? In the order these cases are in, they go from weakest to strongest left to right. The pressure limit for 38 Super Auto +P is 33,000 PSI, while 9x23 Winchester brass can handle 52,000 PSI and it's not a SAAMI registered cartridge just for that reason.

Lastly, what kind of barrel does this gun have? Is it a stock 38 Super barrel, or a ramped after-market barrel that is considerably stronger and supports the complete case body?? (Nowlin, Bar-Sto, etc.) I have to believe it's not a stock 38 Super barrel, because the whole reason the 38 Super sat around getting no attention whatsoever for decades was that the semi-rimmed 38 Super cartridge headspaced on this tiny little rim, which made for horseshyte cartridge alignment in the chamber, and nobody wanted a 1911 that was punier than the 45 ACP and less accurate as well. It wasn't until about 1980 that the IPSC crowd started hot-rodding this round to make major that rimless cases which headspaced on the case mouth came along.

If you have a recently made race gun, I have to believe the thing is set up for rimless ammo and has a fairly strong barrel. My sub $500 EAA Match in 38 Super can digest 9x23 factory loads with no problem (with a heavy recoil spring).

So: There's the relevant questions. What are the answers?
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Re: What is the FASTEST way to pull bullets?

Postby timwarner on Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:17 pm

Shippy, I got a hornady collet puller, with a 9mm/38 collet you can use.

There's a relevant answer.
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Re: What is the FASTEST way to pull bullets?

Postby Seismic Sam on Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:34 pm

Okay, saw the gun, and the price (you lucky bastage!!) so I know you have a Wilson ramped barrel, so it's plenty strong. Guy gave you all the data, so that's good too. What's the headstamp on the brass, and is the barrel set up to headspace on the rim or the case mouth? I have to beleive it's the rim, but that still doesn't answer the brass question.

One VERY important point: 38 Super dies (which is what you appear to have) DO NOT WORK on 9x23 Winchester brass!!! The 38 Super case is a straight cylinder, while the 9x23 Winchester (not sure about the 38 Supercomp and 9x23 Supercomp) and the 9mm Parabellum are TAPERED cases and they both use 9mm dies. As such, it's certain that you do not have 9x23 Winchester brass, but don't know what you have among the other three.

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Re: What is the FASTEST way to pull bullets?

Postby Pitel on Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:05 pm

38 supercomp uses the same as 38 super for the dies.
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Re: What is the FASTEST way to pull bullets?

Postby MrVvrroomm on Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:17 pm

...quickest way? Push them out through the barrel.
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Re: What is the FASTEST way to pull bullets?

Postby Shipyard on Sat Apr 23, 2011 5:37 pm

all the brass is win, RP or midway stamped 38 super +P

i don't knwo too much about the 9x23, and i've only heard the name of the supercomps. looks like i've got some readin to do.
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Re: What is the FASTEST way to pull bullets?

Postby MrVvrroomm on Sat Apr 23, 2011 6:01 pm

Shipyard wrote:all the brass is win, RP or midway stamped 38 super +P

i don't knwo too much about the 9x23, and i've only heard the name of the supercomps. looks like i've got some readin to do.

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