What is the FASTEST way to pull bullets?

[timwarner]

my advice with an open gun, is to not play with someone else's experiments in loading.

If I were not me, I wouldn't play with mine.

Hate to sound like Sam, but, I'd feel bad if I sold my open gun(w/my ammo) and it let go and hurt them.
I've blown a couple case heads on my own, 2, and sheared the lower lugs off a glock barrel, all I got was a sore hand. But it could always be worse.

[Seismic Sam]

Actually, I think you're probably fine the way you are. Wilson would NOT have set up the barrel for the original half-assed headspace on the tiny rim, so it's probably a pretty safe bet that the gun is set to headspace on the rim with 38 Super brass. If there are any doubts, grind the rim off one of the 38 Super cases and see if it seats a few mils deeper. I doubt it will. The Speer #14 manual has data for the 38 Super +P, so you can compare what this guy did with equivalent +P data.

Maximum velocity with 115 grain bullets in 38 Super +P is 1360, and with 125 grain bullets 1312, both with Blue Dot. The 125 grain bullet at 1312 gets you a PF of 164, so you would only have to go slightly above the handbook limit to make major. Based on that, I can't see investing in new brass or new dies with the sweet deal you got. The 9x23 will drive a 125 grain to 1450 (357 SIG and 357 Mag equivalent), but there's no reason to go there unless you're a speed and recoil junkie like me. As such, I'm sure this guy's load data is probably pretty good, and he has a major load all worked out. With a Wilson ramped barrel, I wouldn't bother pulling all that ammo unless you see some really high velocity numbers for some of the ammo. If nothing else, be sure and pay attention to the primer seating pressure with the empty and fired brass, to make sure the primer pockets aren't stretching out.

As I said before, you are one lucky bastage!! I hope somebody in a liquor store on North Broadway shakes up your fo-tay of malt liquor before they give it to you, homey!!

[crbutler]

IPSC open guns are usually built well with ramped barrels, etc. If its good, 38 Super, 38 Super comp, 38 TJ all are usable in a 38 Super set up. 9 mm Largo, 9x23 comp, Winchester 9X23 all will also work fine IF the extractor will work on them. As to the ammo, depends on what he loaded in them. Most open gun loads are slower type pistol powders. You need to compress the load somewhat to get to major in them, so a double charge is pretty much impossible with the usual suspects- VV 3N37, AA 7, VV 3N38, etc.

If anything is using bullseye or 231, then I would be very concerned about that.

Blue dot and win 540 or HS 6 is also rather sensitive. You can overload them.

Having said that, who knows what he put in them. If you have any doubts, then pull them all. As some have said, get a collet bullet puller, it will save your sanity, or at least your arm.

[Seismic Sam]

Well, it sounds like the guy kept meticulous records, so if the boxes are well labeled, Shippy should be able to figure out what's in them. If he can't it's a no-brainer, and you pull everything. I can't argue with Tim's advice either, but there is a difference between pushing a 9mm to make major and a 38 Super, particularly when Speer data shows a 38 Super load that's within 1/2% of 165 PF.

[Squib Joe]

damn son... i'm going to need a giant bottle of advil if i gotta pound all these suckers out with a cheap azz cabelas bullet puller...

A few more beers and you might try pulling them with your teeth.


















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[timwarner]

Well, it sounds like the guy kept meticulous records, so if the boxes are well labeled, Shippy should be able to figure out what's in them. If he can't it's a no-brainer, and you pull everything. I can't argue with Tim's advice either, but there is a difference between pushing a 9mm to make major and a 38 Super, particularly when Speer data shows a 38 Super load that's within 1/2% of 165 PF.

Normally I'd agree with "if it's labeled well, it's ok"

But... In any major load, running hot, you never really know how the gun will handle it, especially in an older gun.
If it's taking an STI trubor load to another trubor, I'd do that, but shooting blind from what some other person possibly (like me), unless the boxes were all labeled with mid-low range loads, I'd pull em. Near top end and you're betting on their reloading scrutiny.

[Pitel]

I agree with Tim. My loads in an ordinary trubor or grandmaster trubor will really light it up. If unsure, pull it and start over. Like Chuck said, double charges are a near impossibility as the powder frequently reaches near the top of the case anyway.

[RLF2011]

Depending on the shape of the bullet, a collet bulet puller may not have the bearing surface to latch onto to work.

[DeanC]

Depending on the shape of the bullet, a collet bulet puller may not have the bearing surface to latch onto to work.

BTDT

[Seismic Sam]

I guess the real question that you need to ask of the guy who sold you this was WERE THESE LOADS ALL WORKED UP IN THE GUN YOU BOUGHT? If they weren't, then the transition to the gun you have would be pretty dicey. If this is THE gun that these loads were worked up for, then some of everything has already gone down the barrel with no apparent ill effects. That just leaves the question of how much do you trust this guy's handloading technique??

One other thing - I'm going to make what I think is a safe ASSumption (but how many times have I screwed up doing this??) that this guy has a chrono, and the average and/or individual velocities are listed in his notes. If he has standard deviations for his velocity strings, that's a good sign, and it would be an even better sign if the SD's were ten or less, because you really have to monitor your charge weights to get down to those levels. If, there's no SD data, that's a bad sign and I'd start pulling bullets.

[Shipyard]

al lot of "if's" and "thens" involved... and you know, with a decnent puller it's really only a day's project to pop the tops and refill the insides. is the risk low, probably. but the remedy so that i KNOW what's in them isn't such a hassle so i think that's the route i'm going to go.

i should be able to get a few hundo loaded up this weekend and give the new toy some gas