HOLD YOUR FIRE - Senator Ortman may Kill SF1357

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Re: Senator Ortman may Kill SF1357 - Stand your Ground

Postby JDR on Thu May 19, 2011 2:25 pm

I Just called her office and got a recording. I left her a very direct message that I would not appreciate her being a block to this legislation. She is my Senator. I have e-mailed her several times over the years starting with the beginning of what ended up as the Minnesota Personal Protection Act. She has never responded to any of my e-mails previously. I made it clear I expect a response on this issue. :evil:
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Re: Senator Ortman may Kill SF1357 - Stand your Ground

Postby MNIceMan on Thu May 19, 2011 3:59 pm

Done.
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Re: Senator Ortman may Kill SF1357 - Stand your Ground

Postby Andrew Rothman on Thu May 19, 2011 4:58 pm

Could you please hold off? We have an announcement coming.
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Re: HOLD YOUR FIRE - Senator Ortman may Kill SF1357

Postby Andrew Rothman on Thu May 19, 2011 5:17 pm

Gun Owners Civil Rights Alliance wrote:
Earlier today, we sent a message asking you to contact Senator Julianne Ortman. The email said:
"We are hearing that Senator Ortman may be holding up SF1357..."


Our information turned out to be incorrect. Senator Ortman is not, and never was, holding up the bill.

Information moves quickly and sometimes erratically in the final days of the session. Given the importance of the bill and the limited time remaining in the session, we acted immediately on the credible information we had.

We sincerely regret any confusion our message may have caused.

Senator Ortman has been a strong supporter of the rights of gun owners for her entire political career. We are lucky to have her on our side, and we are relieved to find out that we we heard wrong.

Please email Senator Ortman -- especially if you did before -- and thank her for her continued support.
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Re: HOLD YOUR FIRE - Senator Ortman may Kill SF1357

Postby chinakay on Thu May 19, 2011 5:41 pm

Yes...I just talked with Jamie her assistant. She said they'd received a million emails and phone calls, and that Julianne was and still is in full support of the bill.
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Re: HOLD YOUR FIRE - Senator Ortman may Kill SF1357

Postby 12smile on Thu May 19, 2011 5:45 pm

chinakay wrote:Yes...I just talked with Jamie her assistant. She said they'd received a million emails and phone calls, and that Julianne was and still is in full support of the bill.

That's good....because for the first time ever I was going to send an email to a politician. :)
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Re: HOLD YOUR FIRE - Senator Ortman may Kill SF1357

Postby Thunder71 on Thu May 19, 2011 5:50 pm

Oops.

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Re: HOLD YOUR FIRE - Senator Ortman may Kill SF1357

Postby JDR on Thu May 19, 2011 5:55 pm

I just got through talking with Jamie at Senator Ortmans' office. I apologized for my stern message earlier and told her to tell the Senator THANK YOU from me, for her support on this issue. :)

(I felt a little foolish, oh well :oops: )
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Re: HOLD YOUR FIRE - Senator Ortman may Kill SF1357

Postby Dave Pendleton on Thu May 19, 2011 5:57 pm

I hope everybody that responded was polite...
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Re: HOLD YOUR FIRE - Senator Ortman may Kill SF1357

Postby selurcspi on Thu May 19, 2011 10:34 pm

There are whispers out there that "there is no smoke without fire" and that minds were quickly changed after email and calls began pouring in. Perhaps we need to follow up and make sure all of our Senators understand we want this bill to become Law.
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Re: HOLD YOUR FIRE - Senator Ortman may Kill SF1357

Postby 12smile on Fri May 20, 2011 12:11 am

selurcspi wrote:There are whispers out there that "there is no smoke without fire" and that minds were quickly changed after email and calls began pouring in. Perhaps we need to follow up and make sure all of our Senators understand we want this bill to become Law.

ok who do I call?
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Re: HOLD YOUR FIRE - Senator Ortman may Kill SF1357

Postby jgalt on Fri May 20, 2011 12:51 am

http://www.gis.leg.mn/OpenLayers/districts

Click on the link above, then type in your street address. You'll get contact info for your state & federal representatives...
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Re: HOLD YOUR FIRE - Senator Ortman may Kill SF1357

Postby 12smile on Fri May 20, 2011 1:37 am

jgalt wrote:http://www.gis.leg.mn/OpenLayers/districts

Click on the link above, then type in your street address. You'll get contact info for your state & federal representatives...

Thanks...but look at this crew of loonies that represent me....


Jim Davnie - 62A - MN House
Patricia Torres Ray - 62 - MN Senate
Keith Ellison - 05 - U.S. House
Amy Klobuchar - U.S. Senate
Al Franken - U.S. Senate
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Re: HOLD YOUR FIRE - Senator Ortman may Kill SF1357

Postby cobb on Fri May 20, 2011 6:05 am

jgalt wrote:http://www.gis.leg.mn/OpenLayers/districts

Click on the link above, then type in your street address. You'll get contact info for your state & federal representatives...


To bad it isn't 100%.

I type in my address and it tells me that I am in 23 and my senator is Kathy Sheran, but I am in 24 and my senator is Julie Rosen.

Here is link to a map that may help, it shows the district border using colors.
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Re: HOLD YOUR FIRE - Senator Ortman may Kill SF1357

Postby plblark on Fri May 20, 2011 7:52 am

12smile wrote:Thanks...but look at this crew of loonies that represent me....


I know the feeling. I'm reminded though of Dick Unger's point that once the Democrats realize they're losing a bunch of independant votes over this issue they'll reconsider. Maybe that's so.

What does it take for me to make a couple calls and e-mails? It means I have to take the time to get informed. It means I have to take time to develop my points and arguments. It means I have to make those points politely, succinctly, and logically.

The good news is that the prep work and practice talking to your reps is good practice for gun evangelism elsewhere. You'll find yourself more confident in discussing the issues elsewhere when the subject comes up.

and Maybe, just Maybe, over time it will have an effect.

Heck, my Rep TOLD me she votes against handguns. But this time she said it in person when she returned my call. 2 years ago, I didn't even get a response.
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