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Re: Minneapolis Curfew in Effect

Postby farmerj on Sun May 22, 2011 8:30 pm

Dave Pendleton wrote:Check out these images from the Strib web site:

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From this story.



Looks like the streets of Gnijlane during the riots in 2004
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Re: Minneapolis Curfew in Effect

Postby xd ED on Sun May 22, 2011 9:23 pm

jgalt wrote:
bstrawse wrote:
bensdad wrote:Do they mean a "curfew" as in for kids? Do they actually mean adults have to are expected to stay in?


They mean adults - I believe there is statutory authority for this. We deal with this a lot when we have storm impact in various cities - just went through it with our locations in Alabama...

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I presume this means that those who don't live there need to get out, not that, were I a home owner / renter there, I couldn't be out clearing debris from my own yard or my neighbor's...

At least I hope that's what it means. Something like that would be entirely reasonable. Anything more would not...


That would be my hope as well- that the intention is to keep out gawkers, and potential looters- one could still salvage their belongings before the rain destroys them. I suppose it's possible, but unlikely that there are a lot of power lines down- to the extent everyone in the neighborhood is at risk, and there doing it as a public safety issue, but that didn't happen when the storm tore up south Portland Ave 2 years ago. I'm guessing it's being done because of the character of that area, and the time of day....

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Re: Minneapolis Curfew in Effect

Postby gyrfalcon on Sun May 22, 2011 10:43 pm

mrokern wrote:My guess would be that the mayor invoked a state of emergency, which puts the emergency response plans into force. Right or wrong, there are statutes in his favor.
I believe the mayor has the power to make that declaration on his own without council approval...


The mayor can invoke a local emergency: https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=12.29

Do you know where it gives them the power to invoke a curfew?
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Re: Minneapolis Curfew in Effect

Postby bstrawse on Mon May 23, 2011 5:38 am

gyrfalcon wrote:
mrokern wrote:My guess would be that the mayor invoked a state of emergency, which puts the emergency response plans into force. Right or wrong, there are statutes in his favor.
I believe the mayor has the power to make that declaration on his own without council approval...


The mayor can invoke a local emergency: https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=12.29

Do you know where it gives them the power to invoke a curfew?


I would assume that would fall under:

Subd. 2.Effect of declaration of emergency.

A declaration of a local emergency invokes necessary portions of the response and recovery aspects of applicable local or interjurisdictional disaster plans, and may authorize aid and assistance under those plans.

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Re: Minneapolis Curfew in Effect

Postby timwarner on Mon May 23, 2011 6:23 am

xd Ed, the looters LIVE there. Look how long it took them to loot broadway liquor outlet.
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Re: Minneapolis Curfew in Effect

Postby DeanC on Mon May 23, 2011 6:58 am

by Minneapolis Police Department on Monday, May 23, 2011 at 7:26am

This morning the Minneapolis Police Department in cooperation with other City departments has developed an exclusion zone in the hardest hit areas of North Minneapolis into which only residents will be allowed once the areas are considered to be safe.

Currently crews are in the area repairing gas leaks, clearing roads, locating and neutralizing downed power lines and assessing the damage to buildings. This work will continue through the day until it is complete. As such it is necessary to prohibit all access to a block until that block is considered safe. Once a block is considered safe residents of that block can enter the area through one of the designated checkpoints.

Checkpoints are located at the following intersections:
42 Avenue North and Lyndale Avenue North
Dowling Avenue North and Lyndale Avenue North
Lowry Avenue North and Lyndale Avenue North
26th Avenue North and Fremont Avenue North
West Broadway and Fremont Avenue North
Penn Avenue North and Golden Valley Road
Oak Park/ Thomas Avenue North
Golden Valley Road and Xerxes Avenue South
Penn Avenue North and 12th Avenue North
Penn Avenue North and 26th Avenue North
Penn Avenue North and Lowry Avenue North
Penn Avenue North and Dowling Avenue North
42nd Avenue North and Humboldt Avenue North

Non-residents, including the media, will not be permitted into the exclusion zone until such time as City services can support such traffic. Persons who attempt to enter the exclusionary zone prior to areas being opened, attempt entry without going through an authorized checkpoint or who are non-residents can be charged with a misdemeanor under Minnesota State Statute 12.45. These restrictions are in place to ensure the safety of everyone.

No checkpoint will open prior to 10 a.m. and no travel will be allowed in the exclusion area before 10 AM. Then only residents will be allowed to enter after the areas have been cleared of major hazards. Anyone in the North Minneapolis area should be aware that emergency responders have found quantities of small debris that have damaged numerous vehicle tires.
There are barricades outside of the exclusion zone. These are in place to exclude traffic from areas in which roads are impassable or hazards exist.

The Minneapolis Public School District has informed the Minneapolis Police Department that the following schools in the exclusion zone will be closed tomorrow:
Lucy Laney
City View
Nellie Stone Johnson
Hmong International Academy
Northstar
Plymouth Youth Center
No school buses will be able to enter the exclusion zone as many roadways are still impassable.

As many main thoroughfares on the Northside are impassable the following exits from northbound I-94 will be closed starting at 5 a.m.:
Broadway/Washington Avenue
Dowling Avenue
49th Avenue North /53rd Avenue North
It is unknown when these off ramps will re-open. All on ramps onto I-94 are unaffected.

Some MTC bus service will also be affected. Please consult MTC for those changes.
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Re: Minneapolis Curfew in Effect

Postby Hammer99... on Mon May 23, 2011 8:11 am

mrokern wrote:My guess would be that the mayor invoked a state of emergency, which puts the emergency response plans into force. Right or wrong, there are statutes in his favor.

I believe the mayor has the power to make that declaration on his own without council approval...


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Re: Minneapolis Curfew in Effect

Postby cmj685 on Mon May 23, 2011 8:18 am

I just about laughed this morning when KSTP 1500 announced the news like this: "And Mayor Rybeck is advising everyone to do what he always does--stay away from the north side."
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Re: Minneapolis Curfew in Effect

Postby plblark on Mon May 23, 2011 8:24 am

But that silly gun confiscation bit in the recent bill was pure fantasy... We're Not New Orleans. That could never happen here .....

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Exclusion Zones
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Rifle armed police (AR or M-4?) riding patrol in the back of an ORV ..
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Re: Minneapolis Curfew in Effect

Postby farmerj on Mon May 23, 2011 8:26 am

plblark wrote:But that silly gun confiscation bit in the recent bill was pure fantasy... We're Not New Orleans. That could never happen here .....

Curfew
Exclusion Zones
Checkpoints
Rifle armed police (AR or M-4?) riding patrol in the back of an ORV Militarized police...


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Re: Minneapolis Curfew in Effect

Postby plblark on Mon May 23, 2011 8:28 am

You know what's sad about this ... I briefly thought ... Well, it IS the North side ... and then I paused and that thought sacred me.
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Re: Minneapolis Curfew in Effect

Postby farmerj on Mon May 23, 2011 8:31 am

only ones to blame our ourselves as we have become sheeple to it as well.

It started 40 years ago and we have not spoken up against it. We allow our elected officials to address the symptoms and not the causes.

So no, this does not surprise me.
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Re: Minneapolis Curfew in Effect

Postby macphisto on Mon May 23, 2011 9:04 am

timwarner wrote:xd Ed, the looters LIVE there. Look how long it took them to loot broadway liquor outlet.

:lol:

I had that exact thought and was going to post it, but then I quietly said to myself, "That's racist," and didn't.
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Re: Minneapolis Curfew in Effect

Postby ComradeBurg on Mon May 23, 2011 9:10 am

Obviously I have problems with authority and it goes double when authorities decide they are going to restrict my movements at arbitrarily selected times. The way I see it the police have looked at those pesky things like evidence, due process, and probable cause and decided it would be far easier for them if those things weren't in play. Now they can just assume anybody walking around the neighborhood during the state's arbitrarily selected hours is up to no good and thus should be detained. After all anybody who isn't being an obedient little peasant to the whims of the state is a subversive individuals and must be dealt with accordingly.

This really makes me want to cruise around the affected neighborhoods during the curfew but that may be the part of my brain that has a problem with authority speaking.
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Re: Minneapolis Curfew in Effect

Postby jgalt on Mon May 23, 2011 9:36 am

macphisto wrote:
timwarner wrote:xd Ed, the looters LIVE there. Look how long it took them to loot broadway liquor outlet.

:lol:

I had that exact thought and was going to post it, but then I quietly said to myself, "That's racist," and didn't.


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