Profiling stickers on your Car

[farmerj]

So after 8 years of having mandatory PTC in Minnesota, agencies are finally making it policy to pull data from 2 different places on people automatically.

Gotta ask, "why?"

[tman]

I think every driver with a permit should be required to put that sticker on their car.

I want to go home tonight at the end of my shift.

Personal attack removed

Apparently my sarcasm took everyone by surprise.

I blame Justa.

[DeanC]

Apparently my sarcasm took everyone by surprise.

****** cops.

[Paul]

Not sure what crystal ball that cop was using, but if he ran her by her name and DOB or DL he did not get back the information about the CCW permit. As it has been alluded to here, that information is stored separately. Of course it is easily accessible with another search, but it is an independent search from the basic query via name and DOB or DL. Not sure if cops can do it from their MDC or not, it probably depends on the functional compatibility with the state system.

What likely happened is that he asked dispatch to run her AND check for CCW. Not sure what would have triggered the officer to include the CCW query. Maybe it is part of the department policy?

My guess is that no officer will get a hit when running a CCW check in Minnesota. But that's just a guess.

[Paul]

There's a flip-side to this, of course. It looks like this:

Flip side? Do you rock one of those stickers?

[Dave Pendleton]

There's a flip-side to this, of course. It looks like this:

Flip side? Do you rock one of those stickers?

No. I am not a LEO or a family member of a LEO.

[goalie]

I think every driver with a permit should be required to put that sticker on their car.

I want to go home tonight at the end of my shift.

Personal attack removed

Apparently my sarcasm took everyone by surprise.

I blame Justa.

Some of us, well, me, just thought it was an a-hole thing to post, even in jest.

[macphisto]

Thanks for keepin it real today, goalie!

[WelcomeD]

I know of a local officer who says their personal policy is to request the Permit search on any car with a NRA or pro-gun sticker on it I get the impression it's a test.
a) When the officer asks do you fail the LIE to me test?
b) When the officer asks do you fail the ATTITUDE test?

No attitude, straight forward, no nonsense, it's not a big deal answer can go a LONG way in helping the officer decide on the amount of discretion to use. YMMV

So doesn't this constitute as Profiling?

Is he against NRA and or pro-gun advocates?

Oh I got it he just wants to rile people up or what.

[Seismic Sam]

Actually, I had two bumper stickers on the back of my truck for about 5 years, and never got pulled over. One was a 4" round white on black "Peace" sign which said "Peace Through Superior Firepower", and I think that may have gotten me out of a road rage incident when this jerkwad wouldn't let me pass while he was going 63 on I-94, and I bided my time until the road was clear and blew past him and went up past 80 or so, and then he comes storming up on my bumper, and I let him go by and he keeps on doing 85 all the way out of sight. Only thing I can figure is he read the sticker and correctly guessed that the guy he was trying to mess with was heavily armed.

The other I got at some fireworks place in Southern Missouri in some little hick town that didn't even have a bar in it. (I was coming back from NOLA after cleaning out my daughter's apartment 6 weeks after Katrina ) I just had to have this one - it read:

Handguns don't kill people.
Drivers with CELLPHONES do!!!

I used to get compliments from people on that one in parking lots.

Then some guy rear ended me, and I had to get a new bumper and lost both stickers.

[jgalt]

I know of a local officer who says their personal policy is to request the Permit search on any car with a NRA or pro-gun sticker on it I get the impression it's a test.
a) When the officer asks do you fail the LIE to me test?
b) When the officer asks do you fail the ATTITUDE test?

No attitude, straight forward, no nonsense, it's not a big deal answer can go a LONG way in helping the officer decide on the amount of discretion to use. YMMV

So doesn't this constitute as Profiling? <snip>

So what if it is? There isn't anything wrong with doing so based on a voluntary behavior. In fact, that is the only time it is either useful or effective...

[Spartan]

Personally, I dont like stickers. I only advertise for Honda and the State of Minnesota on my truck. I wonder how law enforcement knows I am "gunned up" I am clean shaven, I have all my own teeth, my hair is neither military nor hippy and no horns on the front the pilot.

[gyrfalcon]

[Squib Joe]

Interesting reading in the Robert Bailio case:

http://thetruthaboutguns.com/2010/04/br ... ite-issue/

[carver952]

The officer pulled Mr Baillio over for failing to signal a turn, so is the questioning profiling or precaution?
Its not clear if the driver got out of the truck before being asked, that makes some people nervous.
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