Medical Supplies

[rucker]

I am curious if any of you regularly carry medical supplies in your vehicle or range bag.

I have realized that I personally don't plan for this kind of thing at all. I go grouse hunting by myself (often without cell phone reception), I shoot at Beaverbrook and oftentimes I am the only one there, and even when hunting with a group you are often a long ways away from real medical assistance.

I looked at the kits listed here: http://www.cavalryarms.com/medical/medical.html

They have a lot of options. What should a person actually keep with them? Are there other kits out there that would be better?

[justaguy]

I would say just your typical band aid, antiseptic, gauze, and the like. If you some how shoot yourself what can you realistically have that would help you. It would be great if you had an AED but don’t think that it’s worth the price unless of course you shoot yourself a lot. About the best thing you could do is bringing an extra person with you that can help either physically or getting help.

I know a guy that was shot with a 12ga. the woods and he held on till help got their. If someone wasn’t with him one he wouldn’t have been shot probably but two he might not have lived. About all you can do for a gunshot wound is slow the bleeding and try to keep the person from going into shock.

Also look at Galls and Striechers.

[someone1980]

What kind of wound do you want to fit? That is what you need supplies and knowledge for.

I have supplies to clean and bandage scraps and deep cuts. Can do stitches. Some pain relief and allergy meds. I also have some tea candles (short and flat is the key so you can set them down) and matches in a water proof container.

[westberg]

I keep bandages in my range bag (for shooting my Glock ) does that count Actually I have a bag which my wife refers to as my "man bag" in this I do keep a first aid kit. It only has been recently that I have heard about bug out bags and I guess this would qualify. I keep the cabin keys, flashlight, phone charging cord, spare truck keys and knife in it. If I'm getting ready for a road trip I start throwing in the stuff I don't want to forget. I have used the first aid kit in the BWCA and at the cabin on my dog who got tangled in barbwire. My dad was a paramedic and assembled a truma kit at the cabin, because of the shooting and hunting we do there.

Ron

[Aceq2jot]

I actually carry a big first aid kit in both vehicles, along with Ansi 3 clothing incase of such an event where i encounter a car accident or any thing else that may happen. Just make sure that you have lots of rubber gloves on had because sometime you will find yourself changing them a lot aswell as Hand sanitizer.

[jac714]

It would be great if you had an AED but don’t think that it’s worth the price unless of course you shoot yourself a lot.

That was one of the better laughs I have had recently.

Great line!

[someone1980]

Oh ya and a knife and burn cream.

You can buy a kit but it will be a good deal more expensive then going to target and picking up all the individual stuff and a couple plastic bags to put it all in.

[rucker]

but don’t think that it’s worth the price unless of course you shoot yourself a lot.

Well, I don't plan on it. Deer hunting (gun season) for example kind of scares me or maybe someone in your party tripping over a log or something. I don't know, maybe I'm being too paranoid.

When I go hunting I always have a GPS unit, regular compass, leatherman, flashlight, lighter, waterproof matches, 2 fuel bars (don't know what they are called, they burn for 7 minutes even underwater or something), and some food.

A bag of Celox alone (to stop serious bleeding) is $22 for the small and $30 for the large. A kit to treat "gunshot wounds, sucking chest wounds, and the control of major bleeding" is $91. I'm not too convinced that I'm going to be able to help myself if I have a "sucking chest wound" but a bag of Celox and some bandages isn't too expensive and might be useful.

[someone1980]

but don’t think that it’s worth the price unless of course you shoot yourself a lot.

Well, I don't plan on it. Deer hunting (gun season) for example kind of scares me or maybe someone in your party tripping over a log or something. I don't know, maybe I'm being too paranoid.

When I go hunting I always have a GPS unit, regular compass, leatherman, lighter, waterproof matches, 2 fuel bars (don't know what they are called, they burn for 7 minutes even underwater or something), and some food.

A bag of Celox alone (to stop serious bleeding) is $22 for the small and $30 for the large. A kit to treat "gunshot wounds, sucking chest wounds, and the control of major bleeding" is $91. I'm not too convinced that I'm going to be able to help myself if I have a "sucking chest wound" but a bag of Celox and some bandages isn't too expensive and might be useful.

Make sure you know you to use it. If you don't figure it out before hand, you won't be able to figure it out when the blood starts flowing.

[rucker]

What kind of wound do you want to fit? That is what you need supplies and knowledge for.

I have supplies to clean and bandage scraps and deep cuts. Can do stitches. Some pain relief and allergy meds. I also have some tea candles (short and flat is the key so you can set them down) and matches in a water proof container.

What do you need to do stitches? Is it hard? I would hate to practice

[justaguy]

Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying do nothing. I’m just saying that your normal small kit is about all you need. If you have the need for an AED they are great but last I looked they were over $1000. If you feel you need one by all means get one they are very useful. And if you own your own business it wouldn’t be bad to have one.

I was just saying that your best bet would to not be alone in that type of situation if you can avoid it. Like I said I know a guy that was shot so things can happen but how much are you looking to spend. It also comes down to you. If you had all the best stuff would you know what to do with it? Anything beyond an AED and I’m done and if the AED directions are gone I still might be F’ed.

[westberg]

A pretty nurse..............

Ron

[jac714]

A suture needle and suture thread.

I don't know offhand where you can buy them.

[westberg]

I tried to stitch up my dog, she had a loose flap of skin hanging after running in to barbwire. So I shaved the area and tried pushing the needle thru and this is where I had a problem. Nothing to grab the slippery needle coming back thru the skin. You will need a forceps to grab the needle. The dog, she just watch me sticking her, finally I took her to the vet.

Ron

[rucker]

If your concern is just to survive the few hours it would take to get help is there anything that stitching would help more than just using Celox? It would seem to be easier to just rip open a bag and dump it on then messing with stitches.