Medical Supplies

[Einthoven's Triangle]

This man paid the price to have an extensive FA kit!

You should only carry what you know how to use.

I have a reasonably extensive kit I bring up north for deer hunting.

What fascinates me the most is that some of you will pay for firearms training, but not for quality first aid training that will come more times then the use of a firearm will. Now, I am dismissing firearms training at all, but rather pointing out there is price to pay for everything!
Remember you defautlt to level of training, and you will never rise to the occasion! If you do not believe, there is case of many LEO shot with brass that they had placed in their pockets during a reload in a gunfight......where did that habit come from? Ah, yes training on the range...........

[jerry45]

The Carry Depot now has the QuikClot product for sale. The use of this product requires NO training other than to spend 15 seconds reading the directions! As previously mentioned, a GSW can result in many complications which will not be addressed with use of the QuikClot product. The QuikClot Sport product will sell for about $9.

[Einthoven's Triangle]

Dr Phil is right! Life Rule #1 Either you get it or you don't. Pretty much reaffirms that most of you have no clue, nor do you want to learn! There are no super secret "medic" ways of treating a GSW. It does not matter whether it is a GSW or fall with a laceration / avulsion. You need to have a plan if you want to be part of the Solution and not excerbating the problem! What about when your child sticks an arm through a window and lacerates their brachial artery? Hemostatic agents are not going to help that? Again a tool is useless if you do not know how to use it! I do not care what the package directions say! I assure you guys have way too much problems with following directions! You see the the old saying Proper preparation prevents a poor performance has more revelance!

[justaguy]

Nothing that the average person carry’s with them will help much. I believe it is good to get training I just don’t think that it is realistic to have all the things that you are going to need with you. If you work in the medical field consistently and stay up with your skills great spend the money. But some desk jockey isn’t going to be ready for his once, maybe never call into action and it would be a waste of time to have a huge bag of stuff that you wont use and when you need it the stuff will be three years old and your skills just as old.

You guys that are EMT’s or whatever that is great but that is your job. The normal guy isn’t going to being doing what you do everyday and wont retain it with a once a year class. So you guys buy your big bags. Me I will stick with what is sensible, and me needing all that stuff in the modern world isn’t that realistic.

Or maybe I will go to med school, and become a doctor and cruise around in a decked out ambulance with operating room.

[JoeH]

Dr Phil is right! Life Rule #1 Either you get it or you don't. Pretty much reaffirms that most of you have no clue, nor do you want to learn! There are no super secret "medic" ways of treating a GSW. It does not matter whether it is a GSW or fall with a laceration / avulsion. You need to have a plan if you want to be part of the Solution and not excerbating the problem! What about when your child sticks an arm through a window and lacerates their brachial artery? Hemostatic agents are not going to help that? Again a tool is useless if you do not know how to use it! I do not care what the package directions say! I assure you guys have way too much problems with following directions! You see the the old saying Proper preparation prevents a poor performance has more revelance!

I'd like to take your advice but I'm too dumb to understand your post.

[princewally]

I'd like to take your advice but I'm too dumb to understand your post.

You can use my plans. I'm going to scream and shout until somebody more knowledgeable than I magically shows up to fix my problems.

If that doesn't work, a neck-tourniquet will solve any medical problem.

It's amazing how careful the people around me act when I tell them my first aid plans. Not so much as a stubbed toe at my house.

[jerry45]

Dr Phil is right! Life Rule #1 Either you get it or you don't. Pretty much reaffirms that most of you have no clue, nor do you want to learn! There are no super secret "medic" ways of treating a GSW. It does not matter whether it is a GSW or fall with a laceration / avulsion. You need to have a plan if you want to be part of the Solution and not excerbating the problem! What about when your child sticks an arm through a window and lacerates their brachial artery? Hemostatic agents are not going to help that? Again a tool is useless if you do not know how to use it! I do not care what the package directions say! I assure you guys have way too much problems with following directions! You see the the old saying Proper preparation prevents a poor performance has more revelance!

Talk about people who just don't get it! Whew! My post was about GSW and all of a sudden I've got a kid sticking an arm through a window?

[jerry45]

Dr Phil is right! Life Rule #1 Either you get it or you don't. Pretty much reaffirms that most of you have no clue, nor do you want to learn! There are no super secret "medic" ways of treating a GSW. It does not matter whether it is a GSW or fall with a laceration / avulsion. You need to have a plan if you want to be part of the Solution and not excerbating the problem! What about when your child sticks an arm through a window and lacerates their brachial artery? Hemostatic agents are not going to help that? Again a tool is useless if you do not know how to use it! I do not care what the package directions say! I assure you guys have way too much problems with following directions! You see the the old saying Proper preparation prevents a poor performance has more revelance!

Talk about people who just don't get it! Whew! My post was about GSW and all of a sudden I've got a kid sticking an arm through a window?

[Einthoven's Triangle]

Yeah Dr Phil is right again. Either you get it or you do not! Yeah it does not matter what the problem or the cause of bleeding! Geez talk about not getting it! The whole point is that it takes some common sense to treat problems from GSW or falls with lacerations that are bleeding. You guys have such tunnel vision! Not every GSW is a bleeder! So what good will Celox do? When perhaps had an occlusive dressing might better serve the purpose if the wound is to the neck, chest, or abd? Man, some of you guys, Goalie excluded must just want to have no clue! Invest in some quality first aid training! It will last a life life!

[rucker]

Yeah Dr Phil is right again. Either you get it or you do not! Yeah it does not matter what the problem or the cause of bleeding! Geez talk about not getting it! The whole point is that it takes some common sense to treat problems from GSW or falls with lacerations that are bleeding. You guys have such tunnel vision! Not every GSW is a bleeder! So what good will Celox do? When perhaps had an occlusive dressing might better serve the purpose if the wound is to the neck, chest, or abd? Man, some of you guys, Goalie excluded must just want to have no clue! Invest in some quality first aid training! It will last a life life!

I don't disagree that training is best. We know that not everybody is going to get trained though for whatever reason. In that case what can a person do to possibly help themselves?

Is your position that without proper training there is nothing you can do? Let's say I'm not going to take a long training course because I'm poor, lazy, stupid, or whatever. Should I do nothing or can spending $20-30 on some basic supplies possibly increase my chances of surviving an accident?

[justaguy]

Einth with your theory we should all be mechanics, farmer, computer techs, carpenters, accountants, stock traders, hookers, manufactures, truck drivers, clerks, lawyers, TV repair men, CNC operators, pilots, pharmacist, and snow plow drivers.... and then we would not need any other professions at all. We would be totally self sufficient and not need any help from anyone and we could rule the world. Well we would have to pay to be buried and embalmed.

Nobody gets out of life alive.

[westberg]

I just got a paper cut........

Anybody got any suggestions

When I was small I heard about this thing.........I think it was sticky and had maybe a absorbing pad on it........

Wait I found something in my wife's drawer......

Ron

[jerry45]

Make sure you get the proper training before using something you know nothing about (even if you read the instructions). I would suggest calling the Mayo Clinic to get the best treatment.

[westberg]

I think this thread has run its course, we got it........... take some training. I will schedule Basic First Aid to learn how to deal with my paper cut.......

I would still be interested in any class put on by a forum member that is maybe tailored toward our interests. Maybe we could cover the proper size bandage for when I have a FTF in my 1911...........

If you should find this post offensive please no PM's.

Ron

[JoeH]

Jerry45-

You need training on how NOT to double post.