Advice needed for trap gun

[Stradawhovious]

at least 'til ya think it's what's holdin' ya back!

It will be a LONG time before it's the gun holding me back.

Just want to add a different gun to the collection.

Most important thing is that is comes up fer ya, good!

This. ^

Best advice in the thread. Thanks!

[old guy]

+! on the BT 99 single I have had 4 of them, two 32" and two 34", I always shot better scores with the 34". Unless you get into doubles you don't need two barrels, and DO GET SCREW IN CHOKES, you don't need full choke for 16 yd butwhen you get good you will need it for handicap.

John

[rugersol]

at least 'til ya think it's what's holdin' ya back!

It will be a LONG time before it's the gun holding me back.

After seein' ya wield that 625 on Thursday nites, I find that difficult to believe!

I'd go to a few MWCA shows, too! At Forest Lk., there was more 'n a few O/U's ... one was a Miroku (pre-Citori, pre-Daly) fer not a lotta money ... many of 'em were under $500!

Best thing I ever did was go to Gouger Mtn 'n handle 'bout 20 shotguns 'til I found "the one"! Fer under $500, I'd guess MWCA in the coming months would be a better bet!

[Keith]

We always have fun when we bring our 3-gun shotguns for trap/sporting clays. Nobody ever wants to squad with us, though.

I did find a used Beretta Silver Pigeon O/U for a pretty good deal a few years ago. It's shot at many clay birds since then. Deals can be found.

[1911fan]

A real trap gun is not an ou but a single.


The three beat trap/skeet shooters I know shoot eleven hundreds. Because it let's them shoot and still move in the morning. 10 rounds of trap in an evening is nothing for those guys and an eleven hundred makes the twelves feel like a light twenty.

There's a nice eleven hundred for sale here, consider it.

[goett047]

A real trap gun is not an ou but a single.


The three beat trap/skeet shooters I know shoot eleven hundreds. Because it let's them shoot and still move in the morning. 10 rounds of trap in an evening is nothing for those guys and an eleven hundred makes the twelves feel like a light twenty.

There's a nice eleven hundred for sale here, consider it.

+ 1 for the semi auto

[Stradawhovious]

A real trap gun is not an ou but a single.

Very disappointing.

I was hoping I finally had an excuse to get into an over under.

Well, might have to buy both.

[rugersol]

A real trap gun is not an ou but a single.

Very disappointing.

I was hoping I finally had an excuse to get into an over under.

Well, might have to buy both.

"The one" I found, jest happened to be an O/U ... what else could I do?!

[1911fan]

If you shoot SKEET then an o/u is "required." So just shoot skeet. Problem solved.


Then buy an 1100 for when you cant get your arm up to reach for the beer.

[ex-LT]

A real trap gun is not an ou but a single.

Very disappointing.

I was hoping I finally had an excuse to get into an over under.

Well, might have to buy both.

Pete's right, but trap is a gateway drug. Eventually, you'll want more of a challenge and you'll start looking at sporting clays, 5-stand, and skeet. For those, you'll need a double. Not that there's anything wrong with shooting any of those games with a pump or an auto (I shoot my Mossberg 9200), but eventually you'll get tired of picking up your empties. If you've truly been bitten by "the bug", I would recommend getting an O/U.

As for suggestions, try here

Their selection is limited (mostly inventory from dealers who have gone out of business), but their prices are pretty good. There's a Winchester 101 (Browning Superposed clone) on page 41, and a S&W Elite Silver on page 45. Both can be had for $1K. They also have Lanbers for $550 - 700 . My understanding is that Lanber has a good reputation in Europe and Great Britain, but they've never established a foothold on this side of the Atlantic. IIRC, Shackleford bought a Lanber 2087 about a year ago. You might want to send him a pm and get his input on it.

[1911fan]

Gunstop has had a Superposed, a real one on the shelf for a long time because its short LOP, if you wear a vest and are altitudenally challenged, it might be perfect, you could walk it out the door for $650, heck, you could have a butt stock fitted for $250. Its a short tang later gun, not a long tang, but its sound.

[45Badger]

Gander Mountain in Forest Lake had a BT99 for about $800 last weekend........

[speedy396]

I've been toying with getting an OU, too. Seems like Citoris and Berettas OUs are preferred. Older Citoris with fixed chokes are in the $700 range. Joe's, Gunstop, and Metro Pawn each had a Citori in this range. Gander in Lakeville has a pretty clean Beretta Silver Snipe or about $600 and a like new SKB for $900ish. New Citoris can be had for about $1100-1200 new with removable chokes and backbored. New guns also shoot steel.? Is it worth a few hundred bucks for a new gun vs a 20-30yr old gun? I don't know, but something to consider. Converting chokes is a couple of bills. I also looked at a CZ Canvasback madw by Huglu for around $550 new but it gets mixed reviews. Good luck!

[hammAR]

A real trap gun is not an ou but a single.

Very disappointing.

I was hoping I finally had an excuse to get into an over under.

Well, might have to buy both.

Trapshooting Disciplines ATA Web Site

Singles

Singles is considered to be the easiest of the three disciplines. In singles, the shooter stands 16 yards away from the center of the "trap house" and shoots at random targets that fly at various angles in front of him/ her. Shooters are grouped into squads, usually made up of up to five people. There are five positions that each shooter shoots from, for a total of five shots, or one round. This gives participants a different view of the target flying through the air. Each position is a constant 16 yards from the trap house, each one is spaced three feet apart forming a small arc. Squads rotate between four trap fields called a "bank." When the shooter is finished shooting at targets from those four trap houses, they have completed a round of 100 targets, 25 at each bank. The premier shooting event in singles is the ATA Clay target Championship.

Doubles

Doubles was added to tournament play in 1911. It is a modified version of Singles, but it is more difficult because shooters must break two targets fired at the trap house simultaneously. One clay pigeon flies to the left while the other flies to the right. The target path remains constant, but the challenge is if the shooter can hit both targets before they hit the ground. Each target is scored individually, not as a pair. There are no partners in doubles. Some shooters tend to use a shotgun with two barrels for doubles and one with one barrel for singles and handicap.

Handicap

Handicap is considered the most prestigious event in trapshooting. As in other sports, handicapping strives to make the competition equal. The is accomplished by having the more skilled competitors stand further away from the trap house. Based on a shooter's past performances, a shooter is assigned a handicap distance which he/she must shoot. A competitor with a high handicap will shoot no closer than the 18 yard line, while the most skilled shooter is placed at the 27 yard line. It is extremely difficult to win an event from the 27 yard line. Only twice in the last ten years has a Grand American Handicap champion been a 27 yard shooter.

One would think that any serious ATA shooter that has been to the Grand American would know this stuff..............

[usnret]

You can get good O/U guns for under $500.00. I have a couple of them and the most expensive one was $700.00. Some really nice ones are made by CZ, and they are pretty much around the $500.00 mark.