WHERE'S THE 2007 BCA REPORT?

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WHERE'S THE 2007 BCA REPORT?

Postby BRIT_in_the_weeds on Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:46 pm

IT'S MARCH 3 :evil: WHERE THE F00K IS IT? :evil: NOT ON THE WEB SITE AS OF 1830HRS :evil:

http://www.dps.state.mn.us/bca/CJIS/Doc ... Carry.html

THE GOV'MINT AT WORK AGAIN!! :evil:

Subd. 20. Monitoring. (a) By March 1, 2004, and each year thereafter, the commissioner
must report to the legislature on
:
(1) the number of permits applied for, issued, suspended, revoked, and denied, further
categorized by the age, sex, and zip code of the applicant or permit holder, since the previous
submission, and in total;
(2) the number of permits currently valid;
(3) the specific reasons for each suspension, revocation, and denial and the number of
reversed, canceled, or corrected actions;
(4) without expressly identifying an applicant, the number of denials or revocations based on
the grounds under subdivision 6, paragraph (a), clause (3), the factual basis for each denial or
revocation, and the result of an appeal, if any, including the court's findings of fact, conclusions of
law, and order;
(5) the number of convictions and types of crimes committed since the previous submission,
and in total, by individuals with permits including data as to whether a firearm lawfully carried
solely by virtue of a permit was actually used in furtherance of the crime;
(6) to the extent known or determinable, data on the lawful and justifiable use of firearms by
permit holders; and
(7) the status of the segregated funds reported to the commissioner under subdivision 21.
(b) Sheriffs and police chiefs must supply the Department of Public Safety with the basic
data the department requires to complete the report under paragraph (a). Sheriffs and police chiefs
may submit data classified as private to the Department of Public Safety under this paragraph.
(c) Copies of the report under paragraph (a) must be made available to the public at the
actual cost of duplication.
(d) Nothing contained in any provision of this section or any other law requires or authorizes
the registration, documentation, collection, or providing of serial numbers or other data on
firearms or on firearms' owners.
Subd. 21. Use of fees. Fees collected by sheriffs under this section and not forwarded to
the commissioner must be used only to pay the direct costs of administering this section. Fee
money may be used to pay the costs of appeals of prevailing applicants or permit holders under
subdivision 8, paragraph (c); subdivision 12, paragraph (e); and subdivision 16, paragraph (c).
Fee money may also be used to pay the reasonable costs of the county attorney to represent the
sheriff in proceedings under this section. The revenues must be maintained in a segregated fund.
Fund balances must be carried over from year to year and do not revert to any other fund. As
part of the information supplied under subdivision 20, paragraph (b), by January 31 of each year,
a sheriff must report to the commissioner on the sheriff's segregated fund for the preceding
calendar year, including information regarding:
(1) nature and amount of revenues;
(2) nature and amount of expenditures; and
(3) nature and amount of balances.
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T.Roosevelt 1899

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Re: WHERE'S THE 2007 BCA REPORT?

Postby justaguy on Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:20 am

I found it!
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Re: WHERE'S THE 2007 BCA REPORT?

Postby lenny7 on Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:56 am

justaguy wrote:I found it!


Care to share the link?
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Re: WHERE'S THE 2007 BCA REPORT?

Postby cobb on Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:32 am

I have been doing some searching, specifically through he BCA web site and can't find the report for 2007.

Yes justaguy, a link would be nice.
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Re: WHERE'S THE 2007 BCA REPORT?

Postby princewally on Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:43 am

It will be completed in approximately 3 weeks.

-----Original Message-----
From: princewally
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 7:05 PM
To: Bca.Permittocarry@state.mn.us
Subject: 2007 Permit to Carry Report

To Whom It May Concern:

I was reviewing the Minnesota Personal Protection Act website and noticed the 2007 Permit to Carry Report is overdue per 624.714 subd. 20. Would you be able to provide as estimate on when the report will be published?
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Re: WHERE'S THE 2007 BCA REPORT?

Postby cobb on Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:46 am

It will be completed in approximately 3 weeks.
So was that response from Jeff Luther?


justaguy wrote:I found it!
So where did you find it???
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Re: WHERE'S THE 2007 BCA REPORT?

Postby BRIT_in_the_weeds on Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:15 pm

Got a response!!!

It should be available by March 26, if not sooner. Some else will respond to your regarding your question on the delay.


-----Original Message-----
From: JEREMY XXXXX [mailto:JXXXXXXXXX@msn.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 11:23 AM
To: Bca.Permittocarry@state.mn.us
Subject: Permit to Carry



I cannot find the 2007 BCA report on your website! From my understanding, and according to MN statute 624.714, this report is to be made available March 1st of each year.

Could you please give me further details of why there is a delay, and when it will be available?



Thank you



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Re: WHERE'S THE 2007 BCA REPORT?

Postby Andrew Rothman on Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:56 am

Wait! You mean the Commissioner Michael Campion is not following the carry law? I am shocked. Shocked!
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Re: WHERE'S THE 2007 BCA REPORT?

Postby Pat on Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:21 am

Andrew Rothman wrote:Wait! You mean the Commissioner Michael Campion is not following the carry law? I am shocked. Shocked!

Why are you shocked? Afterall, we, "the 2a community," made up t-shirts proclaiming how we've been slow F&*(%$ by the Pawlenty administration.

Do you really think that Commissioner Campion, the cops, or the district attorneys who testified make any distinction between Rosenberg's rantings and the 2A movement in Minnesota? The <REMOVED BY MODERATOR> has unfortunately managed to taint everything 2A related with his scowling visage, and the price has been paid.
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Re: WHERE'S THE 2007 BCA REPORT?

Postby princewally on Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:39 am

Pat wrote:
Andrew Rothman wrote:Wait! You mean the Commissioner Michael Campion is not following the carry law? I am shocked. Shocked!

Why are you shocked? Afterall, we, "the 2a community," made up t-shirts proclaiming how we've been slow F&*(%$ by the Pawlenty administration.

Do you really think that Commissioner Campion, the cops, or the district attorneys who testified make any distinction between Rosenberg's rantings and the 2A movement in Minnesota? The <REMOVED BY MODERATOR> has unfortunately managed to taint everything 2A related with his scowling visage, and the price has been paid.


Wait, you mean that if a public official doesn't like a private citizen addressing bad things done by public officials, he'll prove the private citizen is right? That some public officials are not only human, but somehow take their power as god-given rights and don't see anything wrong with abusing the power? And some <WOULD BE REMOVED BY MODERATOR, BUT I'M SAVING RUCKER SOME WORK> don't see a problem with that? If the public officials being discussed were really worth the adoration, they would also be above petty revenge over someone exercising his 1A rights.
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Re: WHERE'S THE 2007 BCA REPORT?

Postby 1911fan on Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:48 am

If you think that those t shirts offended them, you have not seen a lot of t shirts that get worn at the Capitol. There are an awful lot that have to get removed or turned inside out.

They are not doing this to spite Joel, they are doing it because it suits them some other way politically.

There is a lot more to this than Joel or Andrew. Its a non elected official who hates the fact that he is statutorily responsible to US! I think we should ask Pat P about what sanctions we can put on him to get his a$$ in gear. AND I think we should also ask if a quiet call from her would be more effective in that without drawing further ire.
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Re: WHERE'S THE 2007 BCA REPORT?

Postby Fast351 on Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:23 pm

And still, "we" are constantly reminded to be on our best behavior, because each of us represents "the carry movement". Don't be confrontational, open carry is bad because it paints "us" in a bad light, etc etc?

Can't have it both ways.
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Re: WHERE'S THE 2007 BCA REPORT?

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Re: WHERE'S THE 2007 BCA REPORT?

Postby BRIT_in_the_weeds on Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:50 pm

Got this today


Mr. Brit
Thanks for your recent inquiry regarding the 2007 Permit to Carry Report. It was delayed slightly because of another priority related to the permit tracking system. Bureau of Criminal Apprehension staff are working to complete this report by the end of March.



If you have additional concerns or if you have a pressing need for the information in the report, please let me know. Thank you.



Michelle

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Michelle Fure

Public Information Officer - BCA, CriMNet

MN Department of Public Safety

651-201-7572

michelle.fure@state.mn.us



Updating reciprosity??? I know............dreaming in an election year :roll:
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