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Re: Don't do this

Postby TH3180 on Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:46 pm

QuercusMax wrote:Typical kid thing.

When my daughter went out on her first drive in a car after getting her driver's license, her friend helpfully said "Hey, there's a bee in the back seat!" Naturally my daughter turned to look at the problem ... and naturally turned the steering wheel along with her head. She went off the road an "only" hit a road sign (for which MNDOT billed us).

Kids. Need a lot of training. Hopefully most will survive.

I hate the kid card. My 9 year old has never pointed a gun at me. When it comes to guns. It's not the kid, it's the parent.
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Re: Don't do this

Postby Snowgun on Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:47 am

TH3180 wrote:
QuercusMax wrote:Typical kid thing.

When my daughter went out on her first drive in a car after getting her driver's license, her friend helpfully said "Hey, there's a bee in the back seat!" Naturally my daughter turned to look at the problem ... and naturally turned the steering wheel along with her head. She went off the road an "only" hit a road sign (for which MNDOT billed us).

Kids. Need a lot of training. Hopefully most will survive.

I hate the kid card. My 9 year old has never pointed a gun at me. When it comes to guns. It's not the kid, it's the parent.


You gotta enable them to succeed. Their default setting is fail because they just don't know, and randomly choosing/reacting to an action/path is the quickest way to fail.

You don't let toddlers go down the stairs or play with knives because they don't have the training. We as adults STILL don't have the training for some things, especially for things we haven't been prepared for. That's nature. Must....Overcome....Nature..... :) The ability to do this separates us from the animals.

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Re: Don't do this

Postby gyrfalcon on Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:58 am

Snowgun wrote:...You don't let toddlers go down the stairs or play with knives because they don't have the training. We as adults STILL don't have the training for some things, especially for things we haven't been prepared for...


You don't? :?

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Re: Don't do this

Postby Snowgun on Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:07 am

gyrfalcon wrote:
Snowgun wrote:...You don't let toddlers go down the stairs or play with knives because they don't have the training. We as adults STILL don't have the training for some things, especially for things we haven't been prepared for...


You don't? :?



Well, he (she?) obviously sucks and almost stabbed it's foot twice. Needs more training, and my point is made. ;)
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Re: Don't do this

Postby FJ540 on Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:50 am

My 9yr old son rarely points guns at me, but often chases his mother around the house with one.

He knows I'm far more effective with nerf weapons than she is and has learned to attack the softer target. :lol:


Unfortunately (sort of), his trigger finger discipline (which has been enforced since he was 4.5) is so strong, he aims the gun, then moves his finger to the trigger when shooting the real ones now and it's messing him up at the range. We'll get it sorted.
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Re: Don't do this

Postby ex-LT on Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:37 am

FJ540 wrote:Unfortunately (sort of), his trigger finger discipline (which has been enforced since he was 4.5) is so strong, he aims the gun, then moves his finger to the trigger when shooting the real ones now and it's messing him up at the range. We'll get it sorted.

Don't "correct" that. Chances are, when you enroll him in FAS, they'll drill the same concept into his head.
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Re: Don't do this

Postby tazdevil on Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:38 am

That's a great one Joe, I'll add it to the one's to show the kids on how not to handle a gun. Kinda like this guy, who I ALMOST have started feeling sorry for:




{edit took me this many times and a final pm to fix this, thanks gyrfalcon!}
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Re: Don't do this

Postby FJ540 on Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:32 pm

If someone tried teaching my kid to hold on target, then quickly move his finger down and jerk the trigger as he's firing - I'd demand a refund.
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Re: Don't do this

Postby ex-LT on Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:34 am

FJ540 wrote:If someone tried teaching my kid to hold on target, then quickly move his finger down and jerk the trigger as he's firing - I'd demand a refund.


FJ540 wrote:...he aims the gun, then moves his finger to the trigger when shooting...


Nothing in your original post about quickly moving his finger and jerking the trigger. We teach "finger off the trigger until you're ready to shoot"

I stand by my statement.
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Re: Don't do this

Postby FJ540 on Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:08 am

I get the whole finger off trigger till ready (it's how I roll) - but what I meant to say was that he was standing off hand concentrating on aiming, then moved his finger to the trigger to quickly try to pull one off. He'd never pass an appleseed like this.

With the target in the sights, finger should be on the trigger IMO.
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Re: Don't do this

Postby Seismic Sam on Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:21 pm

tazdevil wrote:That's a great one Joe, I'll add it to the one's to show the kids on how not to handle a gun. Kinda like this guy, who I ALMOST have started feeling sorry for:



{edit took me this many times and a final pm to fix this, thanks gyrfalcon!}


Well, it's nice to know that this bumbling bufoon was kicked off the force, and subsequently chose to live in Egypt and stand neck deep in De Nile. There's some s**t that's unforgivable, and this is one of those cases. Considering how he was carelessly waving a loaded gun around in a classroom full of kids, he should be thankful he's not doing life for killing a kid. But NOOOOOOOOO, instead look at the fact that I didn't get my ass fired for a few years before that. Whoopie EFFEN doo!
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