Shooting at Cook County courthouse

View · by **tman** on Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:52 pm

This is a very small community," County Commissioner Janice Hall said. "There's a sign on the door that says no firearms allowed beyond this point."

This was my biggest fear when I did our courthouse security.

(sent from a "secure location" via scrambled phone)

View · by **photogpat** on Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:09 pm

Yeah, those signs don't do a whole lot of good against crazy do they?

View · by **gyrfalcon** on Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:58 am

I don't think people should be disarmed when they enter a court house. If they want to put up metal detectors to verify who's armed and make sure they're legal to be armed so be it... Why should someone give up a right to self defense when entering a court room? It's obvious that even the best of security can't guarantee your safety.

View · by **Snowgun** on Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:30 am

The bailiffs need to be armed, trained, watching the defendant, and quicker on the draw.

View · by **Fshirley** on Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:07 am

gyrfalcon wrote:I don't think people should be disarmed when they enter a court house. If they want to put up metal detectors to verify who's armed and make sure they're legal to be armed so be it... Why should someone give up a right to self defense when entering a court room? It's obvious that even the best of security can't guarantee your safety.

Very well put.

View · by **tman** on Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:30 am

Snowgun wrote:The bailiffs need to be armed, trained, watching the defendant, and quicker on the draw.

This.

We often would bring additional armed staff in for the reading of the verdict in higher profile trials like this.

I considered shooting a guy once who grabbed for something shiny and metallic inside his coat during the verdict reading for his son's killer. It ended up being a metal picture frame with his son's picture in it. :-|

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View · by **PileDriver** on Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:36 am

tman wrote:I considered shooting a guy once who grabbed for something shiny and metallic inside his coat during the verdict reading for his son's killer. It ended up being a metal picture frame with his son's picture in it.

One of the many reasons that I have much respect, and one of the reasons I decided to pursue a different line of work.

View · by **Heffay** on Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:42 am

Are we back to stealth deletion of posts?

View · by **ex-LT** on Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:34 pm

Heffay wrote:Are we back to stealth deletion of posts?

Is this the post you're looking for?

Try looking in the Shooting in Grand Marais Courthouse thread.

View · by **Heffay** on Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:01 pm

ex-LT wrote:
Heffay wrote:Are we back to stealth deletion of posts?

Is this the post you're looking for?

Try looking in the Shooting in Grand Marais Courthouse thread.

I'm pretty sure the mods surreptitiously moved it from this thread to that one. They're trying to mess with my mind! The jerkfaces!

View · by **goett047** on Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:02 pm

They would

View · by **Hammer99...** on Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:27 pm

The BG died.

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2011/12/27/report-cook-co-courthouse-shooting-suspect-has-died/

View · by **PHATSPEED7x** on Wed Dec 28, 2011 6:45 am

Yeah. I read this. Crazy! Karma got him I guess...

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View · by **engnerdan** on Wed Dec 28, 2011 6:50 am

gyrfalcon wrote:I don't think people should be disarmed when they enter a court house. If they want to put up metal detectors to verify who's armed and make sure they're legal to be armed so be it... Why should someone give up a right to self defense when entering a court room? It's obvious that even the best of security can't guarantee your safety.

I did not catch this before, or maybe it did not have as much meaning to me. I got a summons for jury duty last week. I don't mind the duty part I do mind the not armed part. They sent along a bus pass for a free ride to down town. There is no way in hell I am riding a city bus unarmed. I can not even have a friggen nail clipper with me.

View · by **ex-LT** on Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:39 am

engnerdan wrote:
gyrfalcon wrote:I don't think people should be disarmed when they enter a court house. If they want to put up metal detectors to verify who's armed and make sure they're legal to be armed so be it... Why should someone give up a right to self defense when entering a court room? It's obvious that even the best of security can't guarantee your safety.

I did not catch this before, or maybe it did not have as much meaning to me. I got a summons for jury duty last week. I don't mind the duty part I do mind the not armed part. They sent along a bus pass for a free ride to down town. There is no way in hell I am riding a city bus unarmed. I can not even have a friggen nail clipper with me.

IIRC, plblark had a similar situation (albeit in Ramsey county). He may be able to provide you with some recommendations. The only other advice I can offer is to contact the sheriff's department/court, and find out if they have a secure area where you can store your weapon while on jury duty.