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NYC Gun Charges Dropped. Now I Can Speak Out.

Postby Scott Notaeh on Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:38 pm

http://www.markmeckler.com/nyc-gun-char ... speak-out/

Unfortunately, that day, I didn’t realize that I was about to cross paths with New York City’s anti-Second Amendment stance. Upon showing my case and the weapon to the officer who arrived on the scene, and after a few brief questions, she advised me that she was placing me under arrest for violating New York City’s firearms laws.


I am pleased to announce that the criminal case against me has been dropped. Although I was originally charged with a violent felony, the case against me was resolved with a plea to “disorderly conduct. ” Disorderly Conduct is not a felony or a misdemeanor, or even a crime.
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Postby PileDriver on Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:36 pm

Wow.
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Postby EAJuggalo on Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:00 pm

Chicago has taken a similar stance but not at the airport. If you are in the city of Chicago and not passing through you could also be charged with possesion of an unregistered firearm. I'm very surprised that one of the national gun lobby groups, ACLU or the SPLC didn't take this case, assuming that the author was legal under the peaceable travel law.
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Postby nyffman on Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:26 am

I wish Mr. Bloomberg nothing but success in instituting his numerous nanny state liberal programs. What we really need is a place like his vision for NYC. Only then will people's eyes be opened to what the left is really about. And maybe he will be able to create the utopia the left has been dreaming of. I doubt it, but at least we'll have an actual example of what the wildest dreams of leftists actually look like.

Here's his first step toward reintroduction of prohibition.

Do you like food that tastes good? Might want to cross NYC off your list of places eat.

A nudge against salt.

Are you a smoker?

Taxes? :rotf:

Guns? :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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Postby Dill on Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:32 am

I have no desire to EVER go to NYC.
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Postby Heffay on Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:42 am

Dill wrote:I have no desire to EVER go to NYC.


NYC is a blast. It really is fun. An experience unlike any other. It really is worth it.
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Postby White Horseradish on Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:22 am

Heffay wrote:NYC is a blast. It really is fun. An experience unlike any other. It really is worth it.


Been there, done that. Moved here.
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Postby Heffay on Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:25 am

White Horseradish wrote:
Heffay wrote:NYC is a blast. It really is fun. An experience unlike any other. It really is worth it.


Been there, done that. Moved here.


VISIT. It's a great place to VISIT! ;)
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Postby S.A. on Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:13 pm

nyffman wrote:I wish Mr. Bloomberg nothing but success in instituting his numerous nanny state liberal programs. What we really need is a place like his vision for NYC. Only then will people's eyes be opened to what the left is really about. And maybe he will be able to create the utopia the left has been dreaming of. I doubt it, but at least we'll have an actual example of what the wildest dreams of leftists actually look like.


We already have such a place/example: Detroit
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Postby nyffman on Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:38 pm

Detroit has the liberal political control with it's version of cronyism and corruption but I don't think they had the high taxes and nanny state behavior control that Bloomberg is going for. They also don't have the firearm restrictions. But, yah, they are a good example of where socialism leads to economically.
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Postby mmcnx2 on Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:14 pm

Heffay wrote:
White Horseradish wrote:
Heffay wrote:NYC is a blast. It really is fun. An experience unlike any other. It really is worth it.


Been there, done that. Moved here.


VISIT. It's a great place to VISIT! ;)


NYC is a S**T Hole, it is dirty, stinks and money pit. I spent a few weeks ever year for work awhile back. On the first trip you are amazed, by the third the reality sets in, by the fifth you beg not to have to go back. While they have some neat stuff it is embedded in such a mess it is just not worth it. A few years ago I read an article in Times that said something like half the restraunts have rats or mice. It is kinda like putting a new paint job on a Pinto, it may be shiny on the outside, but underneath it is still a Pinto.
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Re: NYC Gun Charges Dropped. Now I Can Speak Out.

Postby crbutler on Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:56 am

Been to NYC a few times. I even traveled and got off there on a trip back from hunting overseas, and stopped and visited my brother in CT.

The end of the trip was somewhat humorous with their reaction to the big bore hunting ammo in my luggage, but if you know the rules and are obeying them and when NYC's finest start asking questions, its best to use the magic words, "Yes Sir. Please let me speak with your supervisor." When you get someone who looks like they have been on the job 20 years, then try and explain things. If you are following the rules, you get a little explanation that the junior officer doesn't see these things often, and they are just trying to do their job, and have a good trip.

NYC is a lot more fun when you plan on dropping $10K while you are there, I'm told. Even $1K a night hotels are noisy there.

I can't wait to leave when I'm there, but then I'm just a cheap hick from flyover land....
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Re: NYC Gun Charges Dropped. Now I Can Speak Out.

Postby gyrfalcon on Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:24 am

Why did this guy even plea down the charge? It's not against the law to transport firearms from a state like Minnesota to the New York airport and depart with them...

The guy already had a lawyer so he might as well stick it out and go after the city.
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Postby Dick Unger on Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:31 am

It's unfortunate that he had to plea down.....Since he did that it'll be hard to sue over his arrest, because they did wind up with a conviction. It's therefore a justified arrest. (It's pretty hard to sue anyway.)

He diaposed of the case this way. It could take a couple of years and tens of thousands of dollars and the chance of a prison sentence to continue the good fight. During this time he would be a person "charged with a felony" for purposes of any background check. He would of course have the right to a jury of his "peers", in this case, New Yorkers, woho have been drinking the local KoolAide about guns for many years.

It's probably because of the recent Supreme Court decisions that he was able to negotiate this deal. Without that, he'd probably be forced to accept something with a much bigger stigma attached.

Our "justice system" everywhere usually provides prosecuters to offer a deal you cannot refuse. And every "task force" plays into it, indignent folks want to "make that a felony" because they don't see how that will impact all manner of folks who should not be charges with a broadly defined felony.
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Postby EAJuggalo on Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:34 am

He pled down because he violated the laws of the state of NY. He stayed in NY for most of a week before flying out again, therefore he was not covered by the federal peacable journey law. Had he been staying in CT or PA and merely traveling through NYC he would have been legal. Yet another reason I won't be going to NY or DC until there is some sort of nationwide recognition of carry permits.
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