Illegal in MN

[tman]

Anyone want to let me stick their glock in my oven at 500F to prove otherwise?

The fact you guys can stipple them with a soldering iron means they're not thermoset, and they will puddle at 800F.

Ahem.

[FJ540]

That's a cute video. I can make a video where a plastic solo cup won't burn if it's filled with water too. Maybe you did that demonstration in Jr High science class like we did?

Notice no rounds fired on the frame? Weak sauce video.

Give me a glock, my home oven (no heat treat furnace here), a half hour, and I'll show you a puddle.

[Squib Joe]

Liquidus temperature isn't the same as "turning into a liquid" - it really isn't the same as a melting point either, and that is where the polymer frames are excluded. As I understand it, the crystalline structure of the polymers in a Glock (Nylon 6) remain homogenous under high temperatures unlike metals. The polymer will warp, flow, "puddle", and burn under high temps but it never reaches a liquidus state.

[RobD]

Liquidus temperature isn't the same as "turning into a liquid" - it really isn't the same as a melting point either, and that is where the polymer frames are excluded. As I understand it, the crystalline structure of the polymers in a Glock (Nylon 6) remain homogenous under high temperatures unlike metals. The polymer will warp, flow, "puddle", and burn under high temps but it never reaches a liquidus state.

A very smart metallurgist made this distinction for the MN law in 1979.

[plblark]

http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2012/0 ... -sauer-pro


400 degrees for 20 minutes MELTED this gun but did not make it liquidus

[sb5366]

Illegal for FFL dealers to sell under the "Saturday Night Special" laws. Its a cast "pot-metal" design with a low melt point metal...hence "considered" by the law to be weaker, and a hazard. Not illegal to posess or sell for you and me though...

https://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/sta ... &year=2011

Subd. 4.Saturday night special pistol."Saturday night special pistol" means a pistol other than an antique firearm or a pistol for which the propelling force is carbon dioxide, air or other vapor, or children's pop guns or toys, having a frame, barrel, cylinder, slide or breechblock:

(1) of any material having a melting point (liquidus) of less than 1,000 degrees Fahrenheit, or

(2) of any material having an ultimate tensile strength of less than 55,000 pounds per square inch, or

(3) of any powdered metal having a density of less than 7.5 grams per cubic centimeter.

OK I bought one of these at the Gun Stop in St. Louis Park Feb 7th, on Feb 18th the thing's slide ruptured at the range. ATI is giving me my money back. Gun Stop did not even offer to ship it back to them and I had had the thing less than two weeks! SO was it illegal for them to sell it to me??

https://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/sta ... &year=2011

624.716 SATURDAY NIGHT SPECIALS PROHIBITED; PENALTY.
Any federally licensed firearms dealer who sells a Saturday night special pistol, or any person who manufactures or assembles a Saturday night special pistol in whole or in part, shall be guilty of a gross misdemeanor.

[Pat]

yes it is Illegal for your FFL to transfer. The Chiappa version has the same problem.

I have already seen a Chiappa with a broken frame at Bill's.

[Pat]

yes it is Illegal for your FFL to transfer. The Chiappa version has the same problem.

I have already seen a Chiappa with a broken frame at Bill's.

[White Horseradish]

I have already seen a Chiappa with a broken frame at Bill's.

I have already seen a Chiappa with a broken frame at Bill's.

It made you do a double take?