Brass Grabbers

[Einthoven's Triangle]

I went shooting this am at Bill's South. And, I was there with a shooting buddy. We were sweeping the brass to coral errant brass.......and we had asked another shooter if he wanted his.....he said no and we said thanks. But, this guy several stalls down like 4 stalls away. This guy comes up and question us about the brass.....and he goes into this schpeel about if the brass hits the ground etc it is the range's WTF? Man he was trying to buffalo us with BS. Like he is going to get my moonclipped brass? KMA! Holy cow! I know brass is a hot comodity, but to buffalo people with BS......Geez! Guess he thought we must have fallen off the Turnip Truck this am?

[mnglocker]

This is one of the main reasons besides cost that is limiting my trips to Bills GS.

[Stradawhovious]

That's why I like clearly stated brass collection policies. At Burnsville Pistol Range, Roger has posted signs that clearly state "you may collect the the amount of brass you shoot of the same type and caliber" or something to that extent. Makes it a lot easier for everyone involved. That still hasn't stopped people (and yes i've seen this) from sweeping their area and the two adjacent lanes, including the one I'm shooting at, and collecting ALL of the brass regardless of cabiler and quantity. these people usually get the "I'm collecting my brass, so I'd appreciate it if you didn't take ALL of it" conversation. Consideration and respect at the lanes is important for about a thousand reasons.

[justaguy]

I don’t know why people think they have to confront others about stupid ****. Let the range personal handle problems. If you’re not employed by the place don’t bother talking to me, because you mean nothing to me. I have never needed a talking to but if some clown thought I would stand there and listen to him I think he would be disappointed.

[fatboy97]

Just went there today, and of course someone did try to grab our brass, but I said something first because I was shooting with someone else and we both reload. We were sweeping our brass as we shot. So while one was shooting the other swept and piled it below our range bags. We've always worked great as a team to sweep our own brass, and as luck would have it a couple lanes over someone was shooting .40S&W and did not want there brass. I asked and he said I could have it, and I thanked him.

But the guy that tried to hawk our brass saw the pile (at least 300-400 rounds at the time) and made some comment like "if it hits the floor it is the ranges" and I said we were both reloader's and collected our own brass. He backed off and did not bother us again.

[Hazmat]

I've had this problem at Bills as well. Folks either trying to take my brass or some well intentioned newb that sweeps it all forward of the line trying to be "helpful"... With that said, and not to turn this into a Bill's bashing thread, I'm starting to feel that the negatives outweigh the positives that that range. From what I've seen the RO's pay very little attention to whats going on on the range and spend most the their time working as cashiers, answering the phone when the upstairs folk don't, and screwing around with each other. Very little eyes on the line where they need to be. I don't feel particularly safe shooting there when it's busy, especially on the weekends. And of course, that really sucks because Bill's is 5 mins away from my house, but I've been swept with muzzles too many times there...

[Einthoven's Triangle]

It is not bashing Bill's this could have been BPR or Dakotah for all that matter! Some people are just freaking buffoons!

[Don L]

I'm teaching/working/shooting at BPR one or both days most every weekend, and occasionally during the week. I don't recall any problems with anyone collecting their brass. I do recall once a couple of months ago where a guy picked up his brass, and then some of someone else's that was in the same area of the floor. As far as "unsafe gun handling" goes, Roger, Sue, and everyone are quite vigilant, and if it does happen, one warning is all they get. The same with any ND's that hit equipment, etc.

[lenny7]

As far as "unsafe gun handling" goes, Roger, Sue, and everyone are quite vigilant, and if it does happen, one warning is all they get. The same with any ND's that hit equipment, etc.

I love that about BPR. I've reminded a couple of fellow shooters about the rule of casing and uncasing only at the line, but only in a friendly tone and only to warn them that they will get talked to. ("hey, just to let you know, if they see you doing that....blah, blah, blah...I'd hate to see you get chewed out") That way I don't come across as a self-appointed hall monitor, but as someone trying to help them out. When the jokers seem beyond a friendly suggestion, it's easy enough to catch Roger or Sue's attention and nod towards the unsafe situation. They take care of it.

[JohninMinnesota]

Someone should invent a "brass bag" attachment for autos... you know, like a dust catcher on a saw. They would be a meelioonaire! Can you picture it?

[justaguy]

They have them for AR's so how hard could it be?

[EricMN]

They have them for AR's so how hard could it be?

Those are the Worst pieces of junk in the world... Shooting off the line would be fine, trying to do tactical operations/shooting and moving/anything besides stationary target punching with them? hell no... But then, if you are shooting at the line, you know where your brass ends up...

I do know guys who have crafted them for Shotguns.

[Squib Joe]

Just to be clear, Bill's does not have a "if it hits the ground it belongs to the range" rule.

Our brass rules are clearly posted:

"Pick up only your own brass that is behind the firing line. Do not pick up brass in front of the firing line. Do not reach over firing line. Do not disturb other shooters while picking up your brass. Do not pick up brass from another shooters point while they are shooting even if it is your brass."

[hammAR]

.......................some well intentioned newb that sweeps it all forward of the line trying to be "helpful".........................

Gee, that must be me as I do it all the time.................it really pi33es me off when a bunch of "shooters" go through 500-1000 rounds, pack up and leave, while leaving the empty boxes and cases all over the place. For me it is consideration and safety. Consideration of other shooters and the owners as aresponsibility to clean up your mess. Safety as a bunch of brass all over the floor makes for a very slippery and dangerous walking surface........................So if you don't want me sweeping up your or someone elses mess, police the area your self......................I happen to like a safe and clean range...........

[Hazmat]

Gee, that must be me as I do it all the time.................it really pi33es me off when a bunch of "shooters" go through 500-1000 rounds, pack up and leave, while leaving the empty boxes and cases all over the place. For me it is consideration and safety. Consideration of other shooters and the owners as aresponsibility to clean up your mess. Safety as a bunch of brass all over the floor makes for a very slippery and dangerous walking surface........................So if you don't want me sweeping up your or someone elses mess, police the area your self......................I happen to like a safe and clean range...........

Actually I was referring to the guy that comes along with a broom and start sweeping around me while I'm firing! For the record even before I started saving my brass I've always cleaned up my space both during and after my shooting time.