Obama to Ban Gun in Second Term

[infidel]

Dick Unger wrote: Not the tea baggers...

Nothing like being civil to get your point across.

[Dick Unger]

Well, you need to MEET the tea baggers and WATCH them interact with their colleagues. It's ain't the Dale Carnegie crowd, and they haven't made any friends. A bunch of arroagant newbies running around trying to insult anyone who they think opposes them. Civil? Really?

They'll wreck the Republican party because of their behavior, not their "philosphy or "beliefs" Watch and see.

[nyffman]

There are numerous definitions for "tea bagger". Maybe, for the sake of clarity, you should tell us exactly what a "tea bagger" is in your world. Especially since there is cultural difference between urban and small town residents. Just so we are on the same page. You guys seem to have some different practices out there from the way we do things here.

[Jackpine Savage]

Well, you need to MEET the tea baggers and WATCH them interact with their colleagues. It's ain't the Dale Carnegie crowd, and they haven't made any friends. A bunch of arroagant newbies running around trying to insult anyone who they think opposes them. Civil? Really?

They'll wreck the Republican party because of their behavior, not their "philosphy or "beliefs" Watch and see.

From the guy that is always lecturing people to not offend the sensibilities of the lefties. Sounds hypocritical to me.

[nyffman]

Don't be too hasty. Let's give him time to explain. Maybe teabagging is a common, noble, accepted practice in his village.

[S.A.]

A bunch of arroagant newbies running around trying to insult anyone who they think opposes them.

How dare they not kowtow to the go-along-to-get-along crowd?! There is a reason the House holds elections every two years... it is suposed to be tumultuous place constantly refreshed with new blood.

[Heffay]

They do a great job ensuring the purity of the republican party. Dissention will not be tolerated.

[grousemaster]

The term tea bagger is totally acceptable discourse

[grousemaster]

Already got an email from Budsguns yesterday entitled "here we go again," claiming what a great time it is to "invest" in firearms and foreshadowing the rise in prices and limits in supply the next nine months will bring. Just like before the last election, the retailers, manufacturers, and NRA thought about no one but themselves, lining their pockets with the money of the folks for whom they all claim to be looking out. I know I've said it before, but it's a disgrace how quickly our 2A purported leaders will turn around and feed on us while continuing to tell us they really have no choice and are simply being forced by their counterparts across the isle to do so. Bigger disgrace is probably the panic buying we choose to do at their prodding -- we apparently get the leadership we deserve by being so gullible.

+1

[grousemaster]

Well, you need to MEET the tea baggers and WATCH them interact with their colleagues. It's ain't the Dale Carnegie crowd, and they haven't made any friends. A bunch of arroagant newbies running around trying to insult anyone who they think opposes them. Civil? Really?

They'll wreck the Republican party because of their behavior, not their "philosphy or "beliefs" Watch and see.

Like who? I know and have met plenty of tea party supporters. They're regular people who believe in smaller government.

[Norsesmithy]

Well, you need to MEET the tea baggers and WATCH them interact with their colleagues. It's ain't the Dale Carnegie crowd, and they haven't made any friends. A bunch of arroagant newbies running around trying to insult anyone who they think opposes them. Civil? Really?

They'll wreck the Republican party because of their behavior, not their "philosphy or "beliefs" Watch and see.

Using the name of a sex act as a pejorative to characterize your opponents is a sure way to make sure that anyone fair minded totally ignores you.

The TEA party rallies I've witnessed have all been incredibly civil and polite. Compared to other grass roots demonstrations organized by folks on the other side of the spectrum, there aren't any robberies, there aren't any beatings, there aren't any outbreaks of vandalism, and the areas they hold their rallies at are generally left nearly as clean as they started as, instead of being filled with trash and human waste.

Just because their talking heads are less couth and polished than the mouthpieces of those who oppose them, and just because they've been "neoconned" into movement that isn't simply focused on economic issues, doesn't change the fact that when you look at the rallies themselves, the rank and file are far and away more civil, polite, and calm than those who you might compare them to. Their insults are a soft touch indeed compared to the beatings pared out by many other movements.

[Jackpine Savage]

More proof of Obama's threat to our rights:

http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/24/federal-judge-severely-limits-second-amendment-rights/#ixzz1nVkrm0zW

"In other words, despite the victories in the Supreme Court, the battle for Second Amendment rights in America is far from over. There is perhaps no better reminder of this unfortunate state of affairs than a recent ruling by U.S. District Judge Sue Myerscough, an appointee of President Barack Obama."

[curly2k3]

I love articles that state that its a "god given right", which is funny considering there is supposed to be separation of church and state. I don't vote towards either side, I find the candidates who are the least moronic and have their heads the shortest distance up their own asses.

[Dick Unger]

Well "God given rights" can mean anything, and it's not a term that will spur the opposition to thoughful consideration of your opinion. It's not a legal or governmentsl term, it's something that someone who makes up his own facts says. You believe it or you don't, but unless the person who hears it shares your faith in the concept, it's meaningless to them.

Nothing against God, it's just not a persuasive term. If your opponent is a rational person, you have to try reason. If he'd emotional, you can appeal to that. If he depends on faith, you appeal to that.

If you're a born again Christin, talking to a "godless liberal" the "god given right" angle probably won't work, maybe?

[Dick Unger]

With regard to the tea party, their elected representatives have failed to engage the other people who have been there longer in thoughtful discourse. It's probably the fault of everyone that they don't get along. But both parties take actions just to spite the other, and then neither side is doing it's job.

Our self defense law is a good law, and if the various sides would talk honestly, most of the legislators would have no problem with it. It shold not be controversial. But it's going to be hard to convince Dayton he should stop and think about it, because of the behavior of the tea type legislators. It's not really an opiniobn, it's just what his friends all say. Feel free to disagree and think that's not the case. Maybe everyone in the world is wrong except the tea gang.