Just got a Remington 700 in .338 lapua

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Re: Just got a Remington 700 in .338 lapua

Postby jp8775 on Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:09 am

5 shots are 1-1/2”. I usually have a flyer 2-3 " . I am using Hornady hunting bullets taht are cheap for break the gun in and H870 powder. I will soon switch to match bullets and H4831c powder I purchased.
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Re: Just got a Remington 700 in .338 lapua

Postby Holland&Holland on Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:13 am

Any update on the DPMS issue? Just curious to know if they came up with a theory.
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Re: Just got a Remington 700 in .338 lapua

Postby Consummate on Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:46 am

jp8775 wrote:5 shots are 1-1/2”. I usually have a flyer 2-3 " . I am using Hornady hunting bullets taht are cheap for break the gun in and H870 powder. I will soon switch to match bullets and H4831c powder I purchased.


Gotcha. Not a fan of the Hornady. Well, I should say I don't have a weapon which likes it. :)

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Re: Just got a Remington 700 in .338 lapua

Postby jp8775 on Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:21 pm

Holland&Holland wrote:Any update on the DPMS issue? Just curious to know if they came up with a theory.



Still waitng.
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Re: Just got a Remington 700 in .338 lapua

Postby OldmanFCSA on Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:45 pm

You are learning well, Grasshopper, when you learn to shoot 1 hole groups at any range, you will have mastered the skill required.

It took me a while to learn how to do this.









It took a smartazz to let the secret out - shoot 1 shot groups. :mrgreen:
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Re: Just got a Remington 700 in .338 lapua

Postby jp8775 on Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:58 pm

Ok two subjects: Annealing brass. I have been reading a lot about it looks like some guys have U-tube videos on it and they are heating it to high some say that will ruin it. I like the case in a pan of water to keep the base cool process best. I guess does anyone do it and how hot, I have heat sticks I do not know if the temp guns go that hot or not. I need to get one for the barrel anyway. Next: my Hornady AOL case length gauge kit came a week ago but no .338 proof cases, well that came today. Also the bullet comparator kit came to with 20+ gauges. Wow is this easy to do, how far off the lands? I now can control it to a nats ass. I am going to get all that Lapua brand brass from Mike tomorrow morning, it also includes some plinking brass to add to my stock I already have. I am going to be shooting Saturday afternoon for sure maybe friday also. :oops:
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Re: Just got a Remington 700 in .338 lapua

Postby jp8775 on Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:06 pm

I also use an ultrasonic case cleaner. I strip the primers and use vinegar, soap, water. I have done this for over 20 years. It cleans the inside like they were new. I have a commercial unit does about 1000 cases at a time. Should the cases be cleaned and ready to go when you anneal them? I would assume so. Do you need to ever polish them if I do not care that they don't brightly shine?.
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Re: Just got a Remington 700 in .338 lapua

Postby OldmanFCSA on Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:04 pm

To tired tonight to post annealing, will do tomorrow.

Or call me after 10AM.
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Re: Just got a Remington 700 in .338 lapua

Postby jp8775 on Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:24 am

I just ordered a 'Fluke 62 Mini Infrared Thermometer' range is from 2 degrees to 962, should work for annealing.
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Re: Just got a Remington 700 in .338 lapua

Postby RAGGED on Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:39 am

jp8775 wrote:Ok two subjects: Annealing brass. I have been reading a lot about it looks like some guys have U-tube videos on it and they are heating it to high some say that will ruin it. I like the case in a pan of water to keep the base cool process best. I guess does anyone do it and how hot, I have heat sticks I do not know if the temp guns go that hot or not. I need to get one for the barrel anyway. Next: my Hornady AOL case length gauge kit came a week ago but no .338 proof cases, well that came today. Also the bullet comparator kit came to with 20+ gauges. Wow is this easy to do, how far off the lands? I now can control it to a nats ass. I am going to get all that Lapua brand brass from Mike tomorrow morning, it also includes some plinking brass to add to my stock I already have. I am going to be shooting Saturday afternoon for sure maybe friday also. :oops:



Just get a Benchsource annealing machine, best way to go if you have the cash. I made my own, it’s amazing, likely the nicest in the world if I do say so myself. Any method other than using a machine will leave you open to slight differences in hardness, which of course means differences in neck tension and neck tension differences can manifest in accuracy and velocity variations.
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Re: Just got a Remington 700 in .338 lapua

Postby jp8775 on Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:28 pm

RAGGED wrote:
jp8775 wrote:Ok two subjects: Annealing brass. I have been reading a lot about it looks like some guys have U-tube videos on it and they are heating it to high some say that will ruin it. I like the case in a pan of water to keep the base cool process best. I guess does anyone do it and how hot, I have heat sticks I do not know if the temp guns go that hot or not. I need to get one for the barrel anyway. Next: my Hornady AOL case length gauge kit came a week ago but no .338 proof cases, well that came today. Also the bullet comparator kit came to with 20+ gauges. Wow is this easy to do, how far off the lands? I now can control it to a nats ass. I am going to get all that Lapua brand brass from Mike tomorrow morning, it also includes some plinking brass to add to my stock I already have. I am going to be shooting Saturday afternoon for sure maybe friday also. :oops:



Just get a Benchsource annealing machine, best way to go if you have the cash. I made my own, it’s amazing, likely the nicest in the world if I do say so myself. Any method other than using a machine will leave you open to slight differences in hardness, which of course means differences in neck tension and neck tension differences can manifest in accuracy and velocity variations.


Great advice, I went to the site and looked at them. My cost as a dealer is less than $499 not that bad. Do we get to see yours? Sounds cool.
John at Gun stop today told me it’s a waste of time. He never does it, they come annealed. He was totally against the time spent? I was on the internet net last night for quite awhile and seem everyone says it’s a great thing to do to your brass. Brass cannot be heat hardened, to if it is quenched in water that does not make it harder.
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Re: Just got a Remington 700 in .338 lapua

Postby OldmanFCSA on Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:53 pm

Brass work hardens.
Anneal brass by heating neck and shoulder to 800-850 degrees, then quench neck down in water.
Some say quenching is not required - first time you pick up a hot case, you will agree with me - quench!

Doug Giraurd makes the best annealing maching out there - but I use my own motorized design.
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Re: Just got a Remington 700 in .338 lapua

Postby jp8775 on Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:38 am

OldmanFCSA wrote:Brass work hardens.
Anneal brass by heating neck and shoulder to 800-850 degrees, then quench neck down in water.
Some say quenching is not required - first time you pick up a hot case, you will agree with me - quench!

Doug Giraurd makes the best annealing maching out there - but I use my own motorized design.


Thats a nice unit, I emailed him to see if they sell to dealers at a discount.
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Re: Just got a Remington 700 in .338 lapua

Postby jp8775 on Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:49 am

I am going to my orientation for my membership at Faribault R@P club Saturday. I will be doing some shooting at a decent range now. I need to find an old beater car to leave at the airport down there; I could be there in 20 minutes in my plane from the house (I live right at the end of the airport in Waconia where I have my plane). I used to have access to a car when I was a member at the old club in the 80’s.
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Re: Just got a Remington 700 in .338 lapua

Postby jp8775 on Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:53 am

I wonder why other manufacturers to not anneal like lapua dose I guess Cost? It looks like Nosler does it also.
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