Such a difference

[Ranb]

I am really surprised that anyone would question the need for silencers. Anything that reduces noise is a good thing. WA recently changed the law allowing silencer use on firearms. Even the police got into the action and told the legislature they needed them; for work and for recreation. After we made it plain to the legislature that silencers were not a threat to anyone, the bill passed with only four no votes.

There is at least one Senator (Wolf) that is willing to sponsor a silencer bill. Do not be satisfied with what the state is willing to let you own.

Ranb

[ForeverTwoWheels]

Just don't understand the big deal about owning a suppressor. Other than the novelty what is the attraction?

How else can you be this cool?


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[yuppiejr]

There are states that consider using a suppressor/silencer to take game hunting?

I guess I fail to see why protecting your hearing while hunting an animal somehow takes away from the concept of hunting. Does it somehow give you an edge over the animal you are pulling the trigger on?

Wear hearing protection. I don't believe you should be using it on big game or small game. Isn't the technology we have already good enough? Did your father, grandfather, or great grandfather need a suppressor to be successful? I have no problem with owning suppressors. Go ahead and use them on varmints. Shoot coyotes at night with night vision off the back of a atv for all I care. Coyotes are a nuisance and should never be brought here in the first place.

By that logic we should all be using sharp sticks to hunt rather than guns, that technology was good enough to hunt before there was even fire, after all. My grandfather lived before there was widespread availability of penicillin but was not all upset later in life when broad spectrum antibiotics were used to treat an infection that would have killed him earlier in life.

A supressor doesn't replace good hunting fundamentals in any way, you still need good fieldcraft and marksmanship among many other skills... It simply means less noise when you decide to take a shot which is better for the shooter and less likely to disturb other hunters/game or nearby residents.

[arizona98tj]

From NRAMedia.org.....

Today, Arizona Governor Jan Brewer signed House Bill 2728 into law.

This important hunting bill will allow hunters in Arizona to use lawfully-possessed suppressors (also referred to as silencers) on firearms for hunting. HB 2728 passed in the state House on February 28 by a 42 to 14 vote and in the state Senate on Tuesday by a 20 to 9 vote.

It is nice to have a state legislature that does not have a firearms phobia thing, not to mention our Governor. It passed with a very nice majority in both the Senate and the House and the Governor got down to business and signed it rather than letting it sit for the 90 day period where it would automatically become a law.

[Carl_Spackler]

Noise reduction is very important. How many of you have actually shot indoors that is not a range? Do you know how disorienting it is to actually be subjected to that noise without hearing protection. I don't know how many of you have hearing protection next to your night stand, but when you need it, you would appreciate it. That is why I laugh at people claiming they only need large caliber gun for their "home defense". It is deafening when you have to clear a house like course with hearing protection next to someone with a 1911 even with hearing protection on.

I don't know. a suppressor just sounds like you're cheating imo. hunting isn't about what sort of rig you're using, it's about how well you can shoot. a suppressor gives you an unfair advantage imo. wear ear muffs

[tazdevil]

Noise reduction is very important. How many of you have actually shot indoors that is not a range? Do you know how disorienting it is to actually be subjected to that noise without hearing protection. I don't know how many of you have hearing protection next to your night stand, but when you need it, you would appreciate it. That is why I laugh at people claiming they only need large caliber gun for their "home defense". It is deafening when you have to clear a house like course with hearing protection next to someone with a 1911 even with hearing protection on.

I don't know. a suppressor just sounds like you're cheating imo. hunting isn't about what sort of rig you're using, it's about how well you can shoot. a suppressor gives you an unfair advantage imo. wear ear muffs

So in a home defense situation, your going to stop to put on your ear muffs? Let me know how that works out for you.

[Pezhead]

One thing about wearing electronic earmuffs is that it will amplify the noise too. I have no prpblem with supressors other than I can't afford one yet.

[Carl_Spackler]

Noise reduction is very important. How many of you have actually shot indoors that is not a range? Do you know how disorienting it is to actually be subjected to that noise without hearing protection. I don't know how many of you have hearing protection next to your night stand, but when you need it, you would appreciate it. That is why I laugh at people claiming they only need large caliber gun for their "home defense". It is deafening when you have to clear a house like course with hearing protection next to someone with a 1911 even with hearing protection on.

I don't know. a suppressor just sounds like you're cheating imo. hunting isn't about what sort of rig you're using, it's about how well you can shoot. a suppressor gives you an unfair advantage imo. wear ear muffs

So in a home defense situation, your going to stop to put on your ear muffs? Let me know how that works out for you.

who are you, Charles Bronson? the OP sounded like he was speaking of suppressors in the context of hunting, judging from the 80 acres of land he said he was retiring too.

[Hmac]

One thing about wearing electronic earmuffs is that it will amplify the noise too. I have no prpblem with supressors other than I can't afford one yet.

You mean amplify the ambient noise, not the noise of the gunfire, which is blocked, of course.

It would be an advantage in a home defense situation I suppose...to hear the malefactor moving around in the house.

[tazdevil]

Noise reduction is very important. How many of you have actually shot indoors that is not a range? Do you know how disorienting it is to actually be subjected to that noise without hearing protection. I don't know how many of you have hearing protection next to your night stand, but when you need it, you would appreciate it. That is why I laugh at people claiming they only need large caliber gun for their "home defense". It is deafening when you have to clear a house like course with hearing protection next to someone with a 1911 even with hearing protection on.

I don't know. a suppressor just sounds like you're cheating imo. hunting isn't about what sort of rig you're using, it's about how well you can shoot. a suppressor gives you an unfair advantage imo. wear ear muffs

who are you, Charles Bronson? the OP sounded like he was speaking of suppressors in the context of hunting, judging from the 80 acres of land he said he was retiring too.

You were quoting him when he described home defense, not hunting. So not the same scenario, or application there.

[arizona98tj]

Noise reduction is very important. How many of you have actually shot indoors that is not a range? Do you know how disorienting it is to actually be subjected to that noise without hearing protection. I don't know how many of you have hearing protection next to your night stand, but when you need it, you would appreciate it. That is why I laugh at people claiming they only need large caliber gun for their "home defense". It is deafening when you have to clear a house like course with hearing protection next to someone with a 1911 even with hearing protection on.

I don't know. a suppressor just sounds like you're cheating imo. hunting isn't about what sort of rig you're using, it's about how well you can shoot. a suppressor gives you an unfair advantage imo. wear ear muffs

Somehow, it seems that a nice optic mounted on the scope gives a hunter a much bigger advantage over the animal than does a muffler on the end of the barrel. However....if the person can't hit minute of barn, then I guess a quality scope makes little difference and the ability for him/her to empty several 30 round magazines in an attempt to fill their quota makes a difference. Hopefully the folks that are against a suppressor aren't also that bad of a shot.

[arizona98tj]

who are you, Charles Bronson? the OP sounded like he was speaking of suppressors in the context of hunting, judging from the 80 acres of land he said he was retiring too.

Actually, I am not looking to hunt with a suppressor as it does make for a very long barrel. Yes, I did have information about hunting in my opening post....I needed some news about suppressors and since AZ already allowed suppressors for non-hunting purposes, the only news about them was the bill being voted on in the state legislature.

That being said, if all goes well, there isn't but a couple of bullets expended during deer season (depending on the # of tags ones has). Of the other 50+ weeks remaining in the year, I intended to spend a fair amount of them shooting. As I stated some time back in this thread, I would rather retain what is left of my hearing and not annoy the hell out of my neighbors while shooting. I would also like to not blow my dogs hearing out for that matter either. When I was many decades younger, I unknowingly did that to my Doberman who always went to the rifle range with me every Sunday afternoon when I was stationed in VA.

[Rmfcasey]

Just don't understand the big deal about owning a suppressor. Other than the novelty what is the attraction?

Because they transform normal law abiding guys into assasins for the drug cartels.

Seriously, why own 95% of what we own? No one "needs" an I phone, and I pad, a cell phone, a GPS, or a car for that matter. We did just fine with Alex's good old rotory dial and a horse and buggy. Why one one? Because there is absolutly no resonable reason why you should not be able to own one and as someone whos family has hereditory hearing loss issues anything that can delay that is a plus.

I agree .I am sick to death of freedom haters who constantly argue against freedom by stating "you don't need that item'. It seems to me that a free person should be able to own whatever he wants as long as he doesn't harm others. I 've heard antis argue against guns this way. My answer is what business of yours is it how I practice my freedom? If I like to shoot quietly on my property why should I be prohibited from doing so?
People don't NEED freedom to live, just to make life worthwhile.

Rmfcasey