DNR Auction

[photogpat]

This is no excuse, and not trying to make any - but the Game Warden job is one that I would not really want to do. Freaking Dangerous as hell.

Nothing like confronting people you know are armed out in the middle of nowhere!

[ForeverTwoWheels]

These stands were sold at auction. Lesson learned. I know we were in the wrong but we had no ill intent, he could have skipped writing us the tickets

Adding extortion to theft. Outstanding.

[yukonjasper]

As far as supporting it, I think poachers and game thieves get off to easily in many cases. I think selling these low life's property to help pay for the resources that they stole from the honest sportsman is a good idea.

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Forever, I couldn't disagree with you more. If you break the law - you pay the price - as Cobb said, often the price is too low. Sounds like you or someone you know has been on the wrong side of the game laws - Don't care too much for poachers.

I reject your radical assumption, I've never hunted. I just don't support victimless laws or the thievery done by the State. If I came to your house and stole your TV and sold it I'd be guilty as would the person I sold it to...unless I was wearing a badge.

If you have never hunted, I would say your knowlege of the subject is limited at best. Breaking rules have consequences out here in the real world. It is hard to conceive in any scenario other than an atempt to Troll Internetically, that you don't understand that concept. Another unbridaled "liberatarian" loose on the world.


BTW - I have also heard that the DNR auctions are difficult to get a deal - the firearms and bow auctions anyway. I have had some friends of mine purchase surplus and confiscated Canoes, Paddles and such from DNR and Forestry sales and did OK with that stuff. Like anything else, you have to go in knowing the prices.

[Pezhead]

I was wondering if stuff would maybe go higher. People get caught up in the bidding frenzy.
I see Hiller Auction also has other auctions with frirearms and various other items not DNR.
Sometimes you can get a good deal just know wha the item is worth and how much your willing to pay.

[Rem700]

Having met with, spoken to, and lived next to CO's plenty of times in the past - they're not bad people. Much like police and other law enforcement, there are some bad apples in the bunch....but overall, they're decent human beings, and I've learned alot about game & fish laws from asking them questions. Much like interacting with other law enforcement, if you're polite, respectful to them -- they'll likewise be to you (unless its something blantant and obnoxious).

I don't understand why people complain about getting busted violating game & fish laws.The rules are available in a free manual, free download, etc....from the DNR. Read it, EVERY YEAR. You know what waters you fish, you know what game you hunt...read the rules. Don't break the law! Then you don't have to worry about getting your gear taken away.

Think the rules are too strict? Take it up with your state representative -- the Field Enforcement Officer isn't going to care that you think the slot limit is too restrictive, or that you should be able to leave your dekes out overnight, or that you should be able to leave your stand up on public land overnight, or that two/three lines is legal in other states, or that you should be able to ride without a trail sticker. He/She is just there to enforce the existing rules/regs...

If you're legally fishing/hunting/recreatin' and you get busted for something you didn't do -- then you have a right to complain, thats what lawyers are for!

I had to go thru a CO and St paul to get one of there regs defined for use on radio equip while hunting, Seems the CO didnt read the law the way it was intended.
I know of another CO in Southern MN that says he dont care what the law reads on uncased longuns in a vehicle while hunting, he said he will write the ticket and you can take it to court if you dont like it.
Also dealt with COs in N Wi and Mi on a regular basis while guideing never a problem they inforced the laws and nothing more.

[yukonjasper]

I was wondering if stuff would maybe go higher. People get caught up in the bidding frenzy.
I see Hiller Auction also has other auctions with frirearms and various other items not DNR.
Sometimes you can get a good deal just know wha the item is worth and how much your willing to pay.

The auctions where the bargains were had were held up North and, admittedly, about 15 years ago- so things may have changed. The guys I know that bought canoes got them cheaper because they were dented and damaged by trees falling on them- strictly cosmetic and didn't affect the function - we also picked up some forestry equipment (fire axes, back pack sprayers etc.) The newer- non damaged items weren't that big of a bargain only because you had some people there that bid things up - we got lucky that outing because there wasn't that many people there, so the "good" canoes got purchased and there weren't willing buyers for the damaged.

I don't remember from my experience but I can imagine the extra fees can be a little annoying - I don't remember, so I'm thinking it probably wasn't present or nominal. You also have to quit trying to think that it was your tax dollars that paid for the stuff in the first place. Not as bad on the confiscated stuff, but the surplus equipment definitely.

If anyone goes, I would appreciate a review of what goes on there and if you found any good deals.

[cobb]

I had to go thru a CO and St paul to get one of there regs defined for use on radio equip while hunting, Seems the CO didnt read the law the way it was intended.
I know of another CO in Southern MN that says he dont care what the law reads on uncased longuns in a vehicle while hunting, he said he will write the ticket and you can take it to court if you dont like it.

Same as what is considered handheld light when hunting predators at night. Had to go to the DNR central office on 500 Lafayette Rd to get the correct ruling which is a flashlight mounted on a shotgun or when on the hunters head is defined as handheld.

So I am getting the idea that since it is such a long trip for me to go to the DNR auction in Zimmerman that it will not be worthwhile because the prices will probably be high.

[hunterfreakhd]

I had to go thru a CO and St paul to get one of there regs defined for use on radio equip while hunting, Seems the CO didnt read the law the way it was intended.
I know of another CO in Southern MN that says he dont care what the law reads on uncased longuns in a vehicle while hunting, he said he will write the ticket and you can take it to court if you dont like it.

Same as what is considered handheld light when hunting predators at night. Had to go to the DNR central office on 500 Lafayette Rd to get the correct ruling which is a flashlight mounted on a shotgun or when on the hunters head is defined as handheld.

So I am getting the idea that since it is such a long trip for me to go to the DNR auction in Zimmerman that it will not be worthwhile because the prices will probably be high.

I checked out the list there is a lot of shotguns I suspect some of those will go pretty cheap

[cobb]

I checked out the list there is a lot of shotguns I suspect some of those will go pretty cheap

And I am in the market for a basic pump in 20 ga, that is one reason I thought I would go. Plus the entertainment and learning experience as to what people will pay.

[Pezhead]

Might be a deal if ou get a price idea from Gander first.
How much did someone say the Hi-Points where going for?
Yes I know they aren't going to have handguns at the auction.

[Powershouse]

A lot of folks will be there trying to buy their own stuff back. My experience has been that the guns aren't bargains, but you can get deals sometimes on fishing equipment because they often bundle a bunch of rods into a single lot.

[rockcreek]

The guns at the DNR auctions I have been to have sold for far more than they are worth. They will all have property numbers electro penciled on them, which takes the value down even further.

[gyrfalcon]

The guns at the DNR auctions I have been to have sold for far more than they are worth. They will all have property numbers electro penciled on them, which takes the value down even further.

No that just makes them rare collectables! The value goes up each time a gun is confiscated re-sold and confiscated again.

[infidel]

On some levels I agree with ForeverTwoWheels. The government should not be in the business of confiscation of legally owned property. I do not think he is trolling or has to have an intimate knowledge of hunting to point this out. Fine and/or incarcerate lawbreakers, don't steal their property.

[gyrfalcon]

On some levels I agree with ForeverTwoWheels. The government should not be in the business of confiscation of legally owned property. I do not think he is trolling or has to have an intimate knowledge of hunting to point this out. Fine and/or incarcerate lawbreakers, don't steal their property.

I can agree with you on that, but on the other hand if you don't pay your parking tickets you can have your car impounded, so doing something similar may be appropriate.

"The state must prove that the seized property was used with the owner’s knowledge to unlawfully take or transport wild animals or aquatic vegetation in violation of the game and fish laws of Minnesota. If the property is worth more than $1000, DNR must begin a lawsuit to assert DNR ownership of the goods."