.223 deer bullet

[grousemaster]

Im going to piss you all off. I have a .270, I have taken 10 deer with it in the last 6 or 7 years. I should have never brought it up....

Sounds like you have an excellent tool for the job at hand, not sure what you'd have to gain by using the .223. No problem with it here though, can't say I haven't thought about using an AR myself....but there's just SO many better options.

[gunther274]

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[gyrfalcon]

Plenty of folks will chime in about how a .223 is plenty for deer. Do what you want. After seeing some well placed .243 shots fail to make quick kills, I don't use anything under .270 win. To each their own. This is a question asked all over the internet that usually provokes emotional and strong responses, I guess it was a matter of time before the question was asked here.

+100. Why people want to go down to the smallest possible caliber is beyond me. They should get out a bow and arrow if they need a challenge.

[shooter115]

Plenty of folks will chime in about how a .223 is plenty for deer. Do what you want. After seeing some well placed .243 shots fail to make quick kills, I don't use anything under .270 win. To each their own. This is a question asked all over the internet that usually provokes emotional and strong responses, I guess it was a matter of time before the question was asked here.

No offense, but if a clean hit from a 6mm bullet isn't putting a whitetail in its place at anything under 300 yards either, your choice of bullet sucked, your impact angle sucked or you missed.

[gyrfalcon]

No offense, but if a clean hit from a 6mm bullet isn't putting a whitetail in its place at anything under 300 yards either, your choice of bullet sucked, your impact angle sucked or you missed.

Or it met a sapling on its way to the target.

[Rem700]

Despite years of hearing about brush busting calibers IMHO there is no such thing.
About 20-30yrs ago I took my new 444 Marlin and placed a piece of carboard in some heavy brush which I thought would approximate what I would consider shooting at a deer, The brush caused major deflection of the heavy 265gr bullets enough so I no longer consider shooting thru brush.
I have no problem with someone useing any legal caliber(except maybe the 25acp) for deer so long as they know there setups limitations.

[Holland&Holland]

Deer are well documented as the world toughest animal. If you hunt them with anything less than a .50 BMG you are not an ethical hunter. Personally I call in air strikes.

[grousemaster]

Plenty of folks will chime in about how a .223 is plenty for deer. Do what you want. After seeing some well placed .243 shots fail to make quick kills, I don't use anything under .270 win. To each their own. This is a question asked all over the internet that usually provokes emotional and strong responses, I guess it was a matter of time before the question was asked here.

No offense, but if a clean hit from a 6mm bullet isn't putting a whitetail in its place at anything under 300 yards either, your choice of bullet sucked, your impact angle sucked or you missed.

Spoken like a genius What part of "quick kill" don't you understand? The deer were found, and they weren't "missed"

[gunforhire]

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What's with the dashes? I can't see your responses for some reason what kind of area are you hunting in? What rifle are you using? I really want to take my AR hunting too, but the best ammo for the job in a AR platform is gonna be 6.8spc and I don't have one of those uppers.........yet But, If I were gonna try it, I woudn't shoot in a heavily wooded area and I would go with 55 or 62 gr Barnes TSX or a Nosler partition for my 1 in 9 twist barrel

[grousemaster]

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What's with the dashes? I can't see your responses for some reason what kind of area are you hunting in? What rifle are you using? I really want to take my AR hunting too, but the best ammo for the job in a AR platform is gonna be 6.8spc and I don't have one of those uppers.........yet But, If I were gonna try it, I woudn't shoot in a heavily wooded area and I would go with 55 or 62 gr Barnes TSX or a Nosler partition for my 1 in 9 twist barrel

I thought he was handled with kid gloves, especially for mnguntalk!

[cobb]

.... your impact angle sucked.....

I think that is part of the argument with the use of lesser calibers, where a larger caliber and more powerful cartridge is more forgiving.

I use to fox hunt with a guy several years ago, used his .243 for everything, including black bear and it worked for him. I would never use a .243 on black bear, but it worked for him. So as others feel on a .223 for deer, what would be my argument be against a .243 on bear?

[Holland&Holland]

Bell used to kill elephants with his .275 Rigby. Just saying.

[gunforhire]

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What's with the dashes? I can't see your responses for some reason what kind of area are you hunting in? What rifle are you using? I really want to take my AR hunting too, but the best ammo for the job in a AR platform is gonna be 6.8spc and I don't have one of those uppers.........yet But, If I were gonna try it, I woudn't shoot in a heavily wooded area and I would go with 55 or 62 gr Barnes TSX or a Nosler partition for my 1 in 9 twist barrel

I thought he was handled with kid gloves, especially for mnguntalk!

absolutely man, did all of his responses get erased or did he take his ball and go home?

[shooter115]

Plenty of folks will chime in about how a .223 is plenty for deer. Do what you want. After seeing some well placed .243 shots fail to make quick kills, I don't use anything under .270 win. To each their own. This is a question asked all over the internet that usually provokes emotional and strong responses, I guess it was a matter of time before the question was asked here.

No offense, but if a clean hit from a 6mm bullet isn't putting a whitetail in its place at anything under 300 yards either, your choice of bullet sucked, your impact angle sucked or you missed.

Spoken like a genius What part of "quick kill" don't you understand? The deer were found, and they weren't "missed"

Guess I've never seen a whitetail, muley or antelope that was struck in the vitals using proper ammunition that didn't parish in rather short order. I guess the animal should really explode on impact to keep things humane.

FYI. My "go to" big game hunting rifle is a custom 7mm Mag, but I've taken quite a few deer and antelope with a .243. Including an antelope at 670 yards a couple years ago.....Dropped stone dead!! That said, antelope are easier to kill than a deer, I would have never taken that shot on a whitetail or muley, or if the conditions weren't right to make the shot.

[grousemaster]

The issues that I have witnessed involved bullets not punching through shoulder blades or being defected by other bones. Not "perfect" shots I suppose, but a bigger bullet would have been more forgiving. I've also dropped deer in their tracks with a .243, no doubt plenty of other people have. With so many great caliber options I just don't see the point anymore.....

You don't want to explode your animal, it will damage the meat.