Minneapolis GOONs strike again

[ijosef]

Minneapolis cop who put bar patron in hospital: It was other guy's fault, lawyer says (What kind of headline is that?)
http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_ ... frontation

Minneapolis police officer charged in Andover assault is released from jail
http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_ ... -from-jail

It looks like the victim is awake now and on the (long) road to recovery. Hopefully he can make a complete recovery with few (if any) lingering complications. Still, that's a lot to ask for a traumatic brain injury. I'm guessing that the family will sue after the criminal trial is over.

I guess Sgt. Clifford is indeed on paid administrative leave, as the article states "he is now on paid home assignment." I should ask my employer if I can be put on paid home assignment.

[tman]

Minneapolis cop who put bar patron in hospital: It was other guy's fault, lawyer says (What kind of headline is that?)
http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_ ... frontation

The kind that gets people to read AND talk. Besides, paid mouthpieces can say ANYTHING.

I guess Sgt. Clifford is indeed on paid administrative leave, as the article states "he is now on paid home assignment." I should ask my employer if I can be put on paid home assignment.

His union dues paying off.

[xd ED]

Minneapolis cop who put bar patron in hospital: It was other guy's fault, lawyer says (What kind of headline is that?)
http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_ ... frontation

The kind that gets people to read AND talk. Besides, paid mouthpieces can say ANYTHING.

I guess Sgt. Clifford is indeed on paid administrative leave, as the article states "he is now on paid home assignment." I should ask my employer if I can be put on paid home assignment.

His union dues paying off.

Union dues or not, while these types of time offs tend to get negative reactions, I ask: what would anyone want accorded themselves in a similar situation? You get in an altercation on a Saturday night, and Monday, before you're tried and convicted of anything, your boss sends you home, sucking air...
FWIW, my $0.02 would have an agreement with the union that pending any criminal convictions, he would forfeit all the time-out pay.

[Heffay]

For criminal stuff, I have to agree with paid time off. Innocent until proven guilty.

Doesn't mean we can't hang him in the court of public opinion until then.

[tman]

Minneapolis cop who put bar patron in hospital: It was other guy's fault, lawyer says (What kind of headline is that?)
http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_ ... frontation

The kind that gets people to read AND talk. Besides, paid mouthpieces can say ANYTHING.

I guess Sgt. Clifford is indeed on paid administrative leave, as the article states "he is now on paid home assignment." I should ask my employer if I can be put on paid home assignment.

His union dues paying off.

Union dues or not, while these types of time offs tend to get negative reactions, I ask: what would anyone want accorded themselves in a similar situation? You get in an altercation on a Saturday night, and Monday, before you're tried and convicted of anything, your boss sends you home, sucking air...

FWIW, my $0.02 would have an agreement with the union that pending any criminal convictions, he would forfeit all the time-out pay.

A non-LEO would likely be back at work, unless they have a job in which they'd be fired for just being accused, like LEO's might be. In fact, if a non-LEO had been the guy arrested, this probably wouldn't even be a story we heard about.

[Heffay]

A non-LEO would likely be back at work, unless they have a job in which they'd be fired for just being accused, like LEO's might be. In fact, if a non-LEO had been the guy arrested, this probably wouldn't even be a story we heard about.

There have been a few cases of non LEOs punch-killing a guy in the news. The LEO aspect of this just makes it a bit more interesting. In fact, this is the first one involving a LEO that I can remember.

[Holland&Holland]

A non-LEO would likely be back at work, unless they have a job in which they'd be fired for just being accused, like LEO's might be. In fact, if a non-LEO had been the guy arrested, this probably wouldn't even be a story we heard about.

There ae many such jobs and many of us work for at will employeers. There are jobs that if you post the wrong picture online on your facebook page you are without a paycheck and you can scream freedom of speech all you want but it is what it is.

[xd ED]

A non-LEO would likely be back at work, unless they have a job in which they'd be fired for just being accused, like LEO's might be. In fact, if a non-LEO had been the guy arrested, this probably wouldn't even be a story we heard about.

There ae many such jobs and many of us work for at will employeers. There are jobs that if you post the wrong picture online on your facebook page you are without a paycheck and you can scream freedom of speech all you want but it is what it is.

I work for an at will employer, complete with a social media policy, and personal behavior rules. 'At will' works both ways. I am under no obligation to work there either. Which is why I asked:

what would anyone want accorded themselves in a similar situation?

not necessarily what happens to you. A paid leave of absence pending disposition of the criminal charges is reasonable; it protects the interests of the individual, the department, and the public to the greatest degree possible. And again, for whatever value my opinion has, if he's found guilty, he stopped being a cop the moment he hit the guy, and loses any and all pay and benefits from that moment forward

[Akston]

Whether an assailant is in possession of a weapon when he is defeated with one is irrelevant: a single blow can kill.

I'm glad that Vander Lee is on the mend.

[CraigJS]

???

[ttousi]

drift split to off topic

[GunGoogler]

Video of the altercation was released by the Strib today.

http://www.startribune.com/video/162791 ... eo/1/hpmfv

[ijosef]

Wow, did they high tail it out of that place or what? No sooner does the victim hit the ground than you see four people doing their best Usain Bolt impersonation out of the patio and into the parking lot.

Looks like the charges have been upgraded to 1st degree assault. I'll post a link from the most reputable and reliable source in the Twin Cities, the City Pages! (it's a few stories down)
http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/

[oneunder]

Thats about as much as a hit and run as the Lady Senser. (too soon?) Dude hits the ground, and they are gone.

So, not only did he almost kill a guy, but walked out on a bill too. I am assuming he hadn't paid yet, because if he did, the family should have just left the bar and been done with the situation.

[Thunder71]