Enforcing rule #1 won't keep you from losing your thumb.

[mrp]

From what I understand, It's a rental gun at a public range in Australia. I guess they have very restrictive gun laws and a few cases of folks renting guns to commit suicide prompted the use of this setup. Anyone see something like this at any ranges in the US?

[Seismic Sam]

No, but Bill's South has had a few suicides over the years - Sadly, apart from something ridiculous like this, there's really no way to prevent it

[DanM]

Methinks that shooters thumb is at risk from gas escaping at the cylinder gap if he shoots with that grip. His grin could be premature.

The whole nanny state idea of protecting people from themselves has only proven how ineffective such approaches are in the face of the limitless stupidity of the very people intended to be protected.

[igofast]

No, but Bill's South has had a few suicides over the years - Sadly, apart from something ridiculous like this, there's really no way to prevent it

I've been to a couple of ranges that don't let you rent a gun unless a)you have a buddy with you or b)show that you already have a firearm. I don't know how successful it is - but it must reduce the suicides otherwise they wouldn't have instituted it(and made it more difficult to show up and rent a gun on a whim).

Still, that contraption might benefit the new shooter and the range. I'm guessing it takes most of the recoil, and keeps the shooter from jerking and hitting the floor/ceiling/walls/etc.

[tazdevil]

No, but Bill's South has had a few suicides over the years - Sadly, apart from something ridiculous like this, there's really no way to prevent it

I've been to a couple of ranges that don't let you rent a gun unless a)you have a buddy with you or b)show that you already have a firearm. I don't know how successful it is - but it must reduce the suicides otherwise they wouldn't have instituted it(and made it more difficult to show up and rent a gun on a whim).

Still, that contraption might benefit the new shooter and the range. I'm guessing it takes most of the recoil, and keeps the shooter from jerking and hitting the floor/ceiling/walls/etc.

I wonder if it damages the barrel in any way (torque forces??), and how exactly this would work with a semi-auto.

[Countryfried Frank]

I wonder if it damages the barrel in any way (torque forces??)...

My guess it that they aren't concerned about the damage given the regulatory environment.

...and how exactly this would work with a semi-auto.

I can't imagine it would be too difficult on a railed gun. A non-rail would likely require modification to the frame.

[arizona98tj]

The few times I go to a public range, I'm more concerned about the guy in the next lane shooting me than I am about him shooting himself. I guess that contraption would take care of both possibilities.

[illbits]

Methinks that shooters thumb is at risk from gas escaping at the cylinder gap if he shoots with that grip. His grin could be premature.

The whole nanny state idea of protecting people from themselves has only proven how ineffective such approaches are in the face of the limitless stupidity of the very people intended to be protected.

You miss the point. They don't actually get to shoot the gun, just touch it. You grossly underestimate the stupidity of the nanny state :{D

[falgore]

That setup will not stop a suicide, unless there is a plexiglass barrier to stop a person from positioning themselves in front of the business end. If anything, because of its mounting, there is less kick up. meaning it goes where it is aimed. increasing the likelihood of success.

Plexiglass cone, so that a person can't reach the trigger and put any part of their body in front. You would also have to ban, all long objects, that could give an extended reach to the trigger.


also banning rope of any kind

[sgruenhagen44]

Dang... I didn't even think about people renting guns for suicide. I figured I would have heard more about it if it happened at bills. That would ruin my range day.