Ammo help

[AutomaticAron]

Hello all! I'm gonna be hunting deer with a 223 this year and have a question about ammo. I'm looking at using Hornady Varmint Express 223 with a polymer tip. Is this a legal round for harvesting deer in MN?

Any help appreciated and thanks in advance!

[Shipyard]

if you're going to be hunting, you *might* want to read the regulation book. this should be about the first thing you would learn by doing so - there's also a bunch of other stuff that follows you should probably be aware of too.

i - or any number of others - could easily give you your answer, but then you wouldn't learn anything else. sorry to sound like a dick, but if you're goign to be running aroudn with a high power rifle shooting at animals in the next - what, 4 days? - you should at least know the basics of the situation.

word.

[yukonjasper]

Shippy, I agree with you.

AA - I'll even make it easy for you to browse online..................This is a good site to bookmark for all your hunting and fishing questions. Your tax dollars go to putting this site together and maintaining it and I've found it to be very helpful.

Check it out.

http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/index.html

[rugersol]

IIRC, there's something about "expanding" bullets ... **** it, I'll jest copy/paste!

LEGAL FIREARMS (INCLUDES HANDGUNS) FOR BIG GAME

• It is at least .220 caliber and has center fire ignition;

• It is loaded only with single projectile ammunition;

• The projectile used has a soft point or is an expanding bullet type;*

• The muzzleloader (long gun or handgun) used cannot be loaded at the breech (muzzleloading revolvers are not legal for taking big game);

• The smooth-bore muzzleloader used is at least .45 caliber and

• The rifled muzzleloader used is at least .40 caliber;

• Muzzleloaders with scopes are legal during the regular firearms deer seasons, but are not allowed during the muzzleloader season except by special permit for hunters with a medically certified visual impairment. Applications are available from the DNR Info Center, see page 125.

Other Restrictions
• No person may discharge a firearm or an arrow from a bow on, over, across, or within the right-of-way of an improved public highway (including but not limited to federal, state, county, and township roadways) at a big game animal or a decoy of a big game animal that has been set out by a licensed peace officer.
• A person may not use a dog or horse to take big game.

* Note: Hunters are reminded to select bullets that are suitable for taking big game. Most major manufacturers offer either bonded or all-copper bullets that are appropriate for taking big game. Hunters are advised to select a proper bullet design and weight that is suitable for humanely taking big game.

As to the "*", back to the OP's question, I wouldn't expect a "varmint" bullet to perform overly well!

Maybe more somethin' like these?! ... http://www.federalpremium.com/products/details/rifle.aspx?id=210

[forcefed]

Just a recommendation here. But you might want to look at something in a soft point with a little bit thicker jacket. That way you get a little bit more expansion on the bullet leaving bigger holes.

The V-max bullets are meant for varmints and fragment on impact. Not ideal for a larger animal such as whitetail.

And no, I am not saying that a .223 is too small for deer

[farmerj]

If'n yaz feel that you have to use a .22 cal bullet,

You really should be using the 5.7 Express round for that.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009 ... own-to-22/

[Sigfan220]

Come on Spend another $5-10 a box and get the RIGHT ammo!! The varmint bullet is legal but if you hit bone it will not penatrate to the vitals. Get a trophy bonded bear claw, partition or Barnes (no not the varmint granade). You will spend more on gas driving to the deer stand so don't worry so much about spending a few bucks on good bullets.

[xracer390]

"LEGAL FIREARMS (INCLUDES HANDGUNS) FOR BIG GAME

• It is at least .220 caliber and has center fire ignition;"

So I can hunt deer with my .380 LCP ?

[rugersol]

"LEGAL FIREARMS (INCLUDES HANDGUNS) FOR BIG GAME

• It is at least .220 caliber and has center fire ignition;"

So I can hunt deer with my .380 LCP ?

I'd invest in a .25ACP Colt "Vest Pocket" ... less recoil!

[plblark]

"LEGAL FIREARMS (INCLUDES HANDGUNS) FOR BIG GAME

• It is at least .220 caliber and has center fire ignition;"

So I can hunt deer with my .380 LCP ?

Ethically? No

[xracer390]

"LEGAL FIREARMS (INCLUDES HANDGUNS) FOR BIG GAME

• It is at least .220 caliber and has center fire ignition;"

So I can hunt deer with my .380 LCP ?

Ethically? No

I dont hunt, just cant believe the requirement of .223 min (including handguns)

[forcefed]

"LEGAL FIREARMS (INCLUDES HANDGUNS) FOR BIG GAME

• It is at least .220 caliber and has center fire ignition;"

So I can hunt deer with my .380 LCP ?

Ethically? No

I dont hunt, just cant believe the requirement of .223 min (including handguns)

.223 is plenty to take down a whitetail.

[xracer390]

.223 is plenty to take down a whitetail.

but not .25 out of a pistol.......

[Shipyard]

"LEGAL FIREARMS (INCLUDES HANDGUNS) FOR BIG GAME

• It is at least .220 caliber and has center fire ignition;"

So I can hunt deer with my .380 LCP ?

LEGALLY - yes.

IN REALITY - pretty retarded.

if you're going to hunt, do it right. do it ethically. do it safely.

[xracer390]

"LEGAL FIREARMS (INCLUDES HANDGUNS) FOR BIG GAME

• It is at least .220 caliber and has center fire ignition;"

So I can hunt deer with my .380 LCP ?

LEGALLY - yes.

IN REALITY - pretty retarded.

if you're going to hunt, do it right. do it ethically. do it safely.

Yeah, just got after my kids about sighting in the guns......1 wasnt going to do it (was close last year) the other did but only got it close. I said....no wounding of deer allowed, I dont want to hear about tracking and loosing a deer.