Father badly beaten for trying to protect his daugher

[justaguy]

http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article ... 48&catid=2

6 men remain in the Scott County jail following what police call a brutal assault on a father trying to protect his daughter.

Shakopee police say as the crowd was leaving Valleyfair Amusement Park around midnight on the 4th of July when the victim's daughter was confronted by two men.

"The 12 year old daughter was either touched or slapped in the buttocks area," Scott County Attorney Patrick Ciliberto said. "The father confronted them (the men) by yelling at them for what they had done to his daughter," he added.

Police say the 2 men called their friends, who were also in the park. The group of 7 men and a juvenile then confronted the father.

"They beat him to the ground and then, the evidence that we have, when he was on the ground, they used their feet on him. They were kicking him in the face when he was down," Ciliberto said.

According to the criminal complaints, the men were stomping on the 41 year old father as he lay on the ground, unconscious.

He suffered severe head injuries, including a fractured right orbital bone and possible subdural bleeding on the brain. "We don't know if there are permanent injuries yet," the County Attorney said.

Shakopee Police found the suspects in the parking lot. 7 of them were arrested and one man ran from the scene and police are still looking for him. Of the 7 that were taken into custody, one individual was a 14 year old.

The other six men charged and held in jail are Devondre Evans-Lewis, Andrew Shannon, Darris Evans, Terry Arnold, Derry Evans, and Anthony Gildersleeve.

The Scott County Attorney says several of the men have criminal histories and they are all from the Twin Cities Metro Area. They range in age from 18 to 22 years old.

All six adults have been charged with 3rd degree felony assault causing substantial bodily harm.

[rucker]

What the hell? The story doesn't mention if other people were around... I bet everybody else just looked the other way and kept on walking.

[Andrew Rothman]

Valley Fair bans guns, but it's okay, because it's a very safe place.

[45usp45]

Is there metal detectors that you must go through?

[1911fan]

Channel 11 is running mugshots on the news. a wonderful collection of humanity,

[ttousi]

animals............all of them......including the 14 yr old

[Pred]

So at what point does one start defending himself with lethal force, or do you take the beating and hope you don't die. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have been able to hold my tongue either if I were in his shoes. Or then again, maybe there would have been more incentive to get out of that situation if one was carrying??

[ttousi]

retreat is always preferable.......... that said 6 or 7 on one is a disparity of force that would warrant responding with deadly force.........death or Great Bodily harm. Sounds like GBH happened and death was not far behind.

[Andrew Rothman]

retreat is always preferable.......... that said 6 or 7 on one is a disparity of force that would warrant responding with deadly force.........death or Great Bodily harm. Sounds like GBH happened and death was not far behind.

Yeah, what he said.

Is there metal detectors that you must go through?

Nope. Act accordingly.

[cobb]

The Scott County Attorney says several of the men have criminal histories and they are all from the Twin Cities Metro Area.

They don't have to report this, we already new this.

Want to bet that none of them are employed, just living off of Minnesota's compassionate welfare system.

So, should we act surprised?

[Tutmos]

I was there, with my wife, 4 and 5 year old kids and my parents, both in their 60's. I didn't see the actual event but saw the ghetto scum that did it. They were running through the park in a big mob, more than 7 of them. The security guards were running around in a panic trying to follow them. Sadly though it's not like they were the only "gangsta's." The place was absolutely filled with them, like there had been big bus runs with free tickets from the hood. In all honesty it was on the order of 40% of the people there after 10pm, which doesn't jive, no pun with the population demographics. It's shocking how pathetic most of them were, they actively kept pulling their pants down as far as they could and apparently thought it's going to impress their peers. The police started showing up after all the chasing had been going on in the park after midnight. Of course the guards didn't have guns so there's not much they were able to do other than look impotent and speak in soothing but firm tones. No joke the place was a zoo for hours before that. We kept seeing security cars flying around behind the gates and security sprinting out of the cars into the park. I have season tickets and I'll never go back there for the 4th again. If it's like that again the next time we go it may be the last time I ever go. Which will be quite a shame.

It's a tough situation with respect to carrying there. I don't know how you could keep a weapon safely in place while spinning upside down or going on the water rides etc. Andrew is right though, there is no search or metal detectors etc.

The real question is did the hood find a new home to hang out at? I don't see how Valley Fair can keep them out, so sadly they may be doomed as most of the Tupac wannabe's were pretty rude to everyone around them and clearly the other patrons didn't appreciate it. I can't imagine how infuriating it would be to be a regular black family guy there with his kids seeing how the majority of the young blacks are acting like thugs and general hoodlums. It's a culture that really needs to exterminate one of its subcultures.

This is how F'ed up the country is now, nobody would help for fear of being sued or being labelled a racist or something else, people are sheep and if someone had been there with a gun and shot one of the miscreants in the act, saving the other man I don't think there's much question the person doing the shooting would have been in jail. So how can you even help anymore? As I was saying though, there were A LOT of the hoodlums there by the end of the night, I didn't get to see it happen but I was at the entrance within minutes of it and it's a safe bet that most of the people saw the 40% young gangstas and didn't dare step in for fear of the other 300 of them joining in.

Think I'll be sending some emails to Valley Fair to ask how they intend to stop this problem from continuing before I toss my family season tickets.

[justaguy]

A little more info.

http://www.startribune.com/local/south/ ... tModules:1

They allegedly jumped a man after one of them tried to grope his 12-year-old daughter.

By ABBY SIMONS, Star Tribune

Last update: July 14, 2008 - 11:52 PM

The father of a 12-year-old girl who tried to keep a young man from groping his daughter at a popular Shakopee amusement park was seriously hurt late on July 4 after he was allegedly kicked and stomped by a group of men in an attack police called "brutal."

The attack on the unnamed man, which happened just outside Valleyfair Amusement Park, resulted in charges against at least six Twin Cities-area men. They were among several people the initial attacker called on his cell phone to summon them to join the assault.

The group beat up the father as his wife and daughter looked on, police said. The man was seriously injured and unconscious when police arrived.

"We see assaults, but that's brutal," Shakopee police Sgt. Jay Arras said.

Arras said the man and his family were leaving Valleyfair shortly before midnight on July 4 when a man "tried to grab the 12-year-old girl in a sexual manner" near the park exit, the father later told police.

"There was one initially that touched his daughter," he said. "He protected her, and more were called in."

When the attacker's friends arrived, the victim "was jumped from behind by all of them," Arras said.

Seven people were arrested at the scene, while an eighth who fled was caught a short time later.

The six charged with third-degree felony assault in Scott County District Court were Devondre Evans-Lewis, Andrew Shannon, Darris Evans, Terry Arnold, Derry Evans and Anthony Gildersleeve, according to media reports.

Arras said that he didn't know the extent of the father's injuries but that according to the criminal charges, the victim suffered skull fractures and possible bleeding on the brain.

"I just know they were bad," he said.

He added that the group continued to assault other people unprovoked after the attack on the father. There were no reports of other injuries.

Scott County Attorney Patrick Ciliberto and others from his office could not be reached late Monday, and a call to a Valleyfair spokeswoman was not returned.

Abby Simons • 612-673-4921

[Stradawhovious]

He added that the group continued to assault other people unprovoked after the attack on the father. There were no reports of other injuries.

When dogs act like this they are euthanized. I just sayin' is all.

[lance22]

It looks to me like the lawyer for the victim needs to gain access to Valley Fair's security policies. They had identifiable threats to security but did not take action to remove these threats from the park. Perhaps they do not expel people who arrive at the park in a bus? Somewhere they have a written policy, and somewhere there is language which discourages their security people from expelling trouble-makers. And when they find that document they will have found their one million dollar sheet of paper.

When they know of a threat but do not take action you are more liable than if you do not know. When you know of a threat and have a written policy that prevents you from taking meaningful steps, then you become REALLY liable.

Another question would be, Why does Valley Fair babysit the dregs of society on a daily basis? I've stopped going to the park because every time I'm there, there are a thousand buses dropping off 10,000 unsupervised kids. It not only makes the lines impossible, but the vulgar and offensive behavior is more than I'm willing to tolerate.

[JohninMinnesota]

I'm sure a lot of us are holding our tongues since this is a public forum and we don't want to say anything that would reflect poorly upon the carry community.
SNIP

I was holding something else... but what is there to say about this? It is typical. It is why I choose to carry a phone, a couple of toad stickers and a handgun, along with my ninja brain, negotiating skillz and willingness to die or go to prison for life when necessary to protect myself and my family. It is why I stay out of bars, late night events downtown, bad areas, and trouble spots unless I don't have a choice. Valley Fair banning guns is just like every other entity that "bans guns" from their premises... I don't give a rats ass what *they* want! I will continue to go about minding my own business and patronizing at will, with all my "comfort toolz", and will stop if and when *I* decide it is time to stop (okay, the wife has significant influence on me at this time in my life as well). I follow the laws, and do what is right. I don't use my gun in any way harmful to another person unless it is my last option to keep from being beaten or killed.

Thugs are everywhere, and so are angry people, along with gangs and drunks. Stay away from them, or have a plan to deal with them. A pat on the ass isn't worth getting your skull kicked in... everyone paying attention? Now, there are times where it is worth getting your skull kicked in... if you let them... but it will happen so fast that you won't be required to *think* about it. So, when you have an opportunity to respond to something like this, take it. RESPOND with words that disarm, or by ignoring the issue until you can call the police or do whatever you can to get away from the threat as quickly as possible.

The carry community is just like every other community, with the exception - we take our lives and liberty into our own hands. How should you have reacted? How the hell would I know? YOU will know when you are in the situation, and you will do what you have practiced. Do you practice talking to people and dealing with anger and hostility in a rational and logical way? Do you practice disarming an angry person with calm, steady, engaging conversation? Do *YOU* have anger problems? Concentrate on paying attention to your intuition and try to stay logical and reasonable. Let the cops deal with the thugs. If they patted your teenager's ass, then call the police and file a complaint (is it illegal to pat an ass?). Go home without a caved in skull!