Could they take our guns??

[minnhawk]

I was a proud owner of a black rifle that was purchased after the ban went in place. As I lived night and day with a very similar black rifle for four years whilst helping Uncle Sam keep Western Europe free from the Soviet Scourge, I missed sleeping with, cleaning, and shooting an AR. My "ban" AR-15 was a very well-made and accurate Bushmaster (back when Bushmaster made 'em for Uncle Sam). Sadly, it lacked a bayonet lug and flash suppressor, but it accepted my Colt 30round magazines from my Army days, had a carry handle and pistol grip. That was what the last "ban" brought on us. (they could have 3 out of 5 evils) I had it until I fell through I ice with it just this past week.

No one is coming for your guns. Congress is not going to pass a law to make nearly 180,000,000 AMERICANS into felons. You could turn in your guns for a gift card, but no one can prevent you from being stupid now, can they?

[tazdevil]

I'd worry if I hadn't been on that boat trip with Shippy and a few others from here on Lake Gitche Gumee. I don't remember who was driving, we had all our guns on a hunting expedition to check out rumors of a big bad deer on one of the islands. All I remember is the sun disappearing and someone saying "THAT'S A BIG F----ING WAVE!!!!". Next thing I knew, we were all in Duluth's main hospital. A few of us, after being told our guns went down with the boat, had to be cardioverted a few times to normal rhythm. It was bad.

So no, I am not afraid they're coming for my guns, that lake won't ever give them up.

[LarryP]

What good would they do you if they were banned/required to be turned in? Couldn't use them anywhere, or let people know you have them. You'd be in jail before you knew what hit you.

[river_boater]

What good would they do you if they were banned/required to be turned in? Couldn't use them anywhere, or let people know you have them. You'd be in jail before you knew what hit you.

This is an interesting observation . Suppose anything considered an Assault Weapon under the 1994 ban became illegal to possess as of 1 January 2013. What would you do? I'm not sure what I would do, honestly.

I've talked to friends that would keep them. Pretty risky in my opinion. Others I've talked to would bury them. I can see that, but what for, a possible repeal? I don't know.

The best article I've read so far comes from, of all things, a pretty liberal web site/news source here.

[XDM45]

What good would they do you if they were banned/required to be turned in? Couldn't use them anywhere, or let people know you have them. You'd be in jail before you knew what hit you.

Larry, there is so much wrong with that statement it's not even funny.

I will die on my feet before I will live on my knees for any god, government or individual. I don't fear death, but I do fear imprisonment, tyranny, crimes against freedom and humanity, and other things along those lines. If "they" come for my guns, I will fight them. No, I would not fight them for my guns, because those are just tools to use for the greater cause of freedom; and it is that freedom which I would fight for by using those tools. Those tools protect our freedoms. As has been said so many times, the second amendment protects the first.

I am in no hurry to give up my life, but a life without freedom is not worth living. Yes, the government would kill me most likely, but I'd die a free man for a cause I believe is greater than myself or my own life. I'm sure you're saying how do you know what you'd do when the time comes, if it comes? Well, let me tell a true story.....

I realize that what follows is not exactly on the same level as what I'm talking about above, nor is it equal to someone doing brave actions in war, but my story which follows is equal in the sense that I put something I believed in to be greater than myself, which in this case, was my family. So prefacing that, here we go........

When I was 5 years old some "kidnappers" came into our house and grabbed one of my sisters. Now they were really friends of one of my sisters who was turning 18 at the time in 1973, but this inside job and connection was unknown to me. My other family members were in on it, but I wasn't. Who figured to tell the 5 year old kid, right? So what did I do as my family watched? First for a few seconds, I was in disbelief at their inaction, then a few seconds later, I attacked 3 almost grown men because they were attacking my family. I know now that I wasn't at risk of getting killed then, but at the time, that though crossed my mind - and I still went for it - because I put my sister, my family over my own life. I believed in something greater than myself, and that's the point of relaying this story is that I've done it before and would do it again for something I felt so strongly about.

Would I do it again?

You bet your life I would. Every single time.

The 2A is so the people can protect themselves from a tyrannical government because we learned our lesson once when we paid for our freedom with the blood of patriots who fought in revolution for the freedom to live as they choose. We and our freedoms already die a thousand deaths of little paper cuts in the forms of laws and other things in which we so willing give for the sake of "freedom" and "safety" and "Anti-Terrorism".

We all must draw the line for ourselves, but if "they" tried to put people in camps, to take away our guns, to force use to be registered with tattooed arms, to give up our children, to be forced into servitude, yes, I would fight, and I would probably die, but either way, I would be free.

I do not worry about the big battles such as these happening, because if they happen, I will fight.

It is the little battles, the one more law, the one more restriction, the freedoms we have being legislated away one at a time, much more subversive, much more silent, but just as deadly....and for these things, we must fight as well.

I see far too much fear around here about not making waves, trying to fly under the radar, fear, uncertainty and doubt about the taking of guns, etc. There is a time and place for that, and then there is not. I am not proposing any kind of revolution other than the one that is needed to take place inside each and every one of us right now.

Larry, ya struck a nerve with me.

Maybe people on here think I'm being an Internet tough guy, but rest assured, I am not. I'm sure someone will disagree, flame, etc, and I don't care, but I do care about our freedoms and I hope I will never need to prove my words here, not out of fear that I won't act, but rather that I had to.

Yes, they will take my gun when they pry it from my cold dead hands; but they will not ever take me. They will not own me, they will not supress me, they will not take my freedom.

[ASmith]

They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
-Benjamin Franklin

[goett047]

If "they" come for my guns, I will fight them...
the second amendment protects the first.

The 2A is so the people can protect themselves from a tyrannical government.

Yes, they will take my gun when they pry it from my cold dead hands; but they will not ever take me. They will not own me, they will not supress me, they will not take my freedom.

This^
My guns did not fall in a lake or get destroyed. They are in my house, where they were meant to be. That's where they will stay until I say otherwise. I answer to a higher power than today's politicians and won't be bullied by them.

[george]

I believe it could happen like Australia and the UK but because of the amount of hostile gun owners and US military pro gun individuals
they need the help of outside forces to do the collecting.
It's called the UN Small Arms Trade Treaty.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2olhfn_0d4

Edit to add; Yes I Am A Bit PARANOID !!!

[Hmac]

Man, on this and even more so on other gun forums, I'm seeing a lot of this "from my cold, dead hands" rhetoric. Let's be realistic. They aren't going to come door to door to pick up guns...that's a fantasy that just isn't going to fly. In the unlikely event that mere possession of various kinds of semi-automatic firearms is made illegal, it would likely be phased in, possibly over years. Or...they don't have to come to anyone's door, they can just make possession illegal, then deal with confiscation on a case-by-case basis...next time they hear you out shooting. You can't compare Australia and the UK to the US. The realities are completely different.

But let's be realistic and allow for all the anti-gun emotion to settle down before amping up our own pro-gun emotion and start making fantastic assumptions about what's going to happen. Let's focus on what we know. These internet gun forums are devolving into speculation that is so silly that any anti-gun people reading would at best laugh their ass off and at worst, have their assumptions about the pro-gun mindset confirmed.

[xd ED]

I believe it could happen like Australia and the UK but because of the amount of hostile gun owners and US military pro gun individuals
they need the help of outside forces to do the collecting.
It's called the UN Small Arms Trade Treaty.

Edit to add; Yes I Am A Bit PARANOID !!!

You might change your mind by reading this:
Gun Restrictions Have Always Bred Defiance, Black Markets

[ForeverTwoWheels]

Lock it up. On principle.

No you may not search my home.

Yes you may kiss my ass.

I wonder if the founders would have bothered fighting a bloody unwinnable war if they could see that in less than 300 years the nation they struggled to build would be less patriots and more pitiful cowards too afraid to stand up and say "no!"

If you would surrender the very item that ensures your freedom then you don't know what liberty is much less deserve it.

[Hmac]

Lock it up. On principle.

No you may not search my home.

Yes you may kiss my ass.

I wonder if the founders would have bothered fighting a bloody unwinnable war if they could see that in less than 300 years the nation they struggled to build would be less patriots and more pitiful cowards too afraid to stand up and say "no!"

If you would surrender the very item that ensures your freedom then you don't know what liberty is much less deserve it.

If they have reasonable suspicion that you are breaking the law by owning contraband weapons and can get a search warrant, of course they can search your home. How are you going to stop them?

[george]

Don't you think if a actual BAN of a firearm is written, wouldn't it include an announcement of there presents as they kick in the door.
You will not have the opportunity to say NO. And an actual warrant will not be required.
Jest my thoughts if it were to happen.

[Evad]

Don't you think if a actual BAN of a firearm is written, wouldn't it include an announcement of there presents as they kick in the door.
You will not have the opportunity to say NO. And an actual warrant will not be required.
Jest my thoughts if it were to happen.

Jesus people, really? Sorry George...I'm not singling you out.
They will NOT sign a ban and start kicking in doors. IF they did, that's the day you need a gun the most. Especially if they start rounding up the Jews like one of the recent times this was done (it should fail faster the next time it is tried if a leader is ever that stupid again). I'm not even willing to get into some big debate. It won't happen. If you really feel a discussion of the sort is needed...maybe someplace less public so people don't think we are all extremeists and get behind any plan to "make us safer".

[Holland&Holland]

Remeber Prohibition worked quite well and the war on drugs has just about eliminated it completely off our streets.