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Stainless Winter Lube

Postby sawgrass on Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:51 pm

What do you guys use for lube for your stainless guns in the Winter time for shooting outdoors?
We haven't ever had a galling problem but I keep reading about it.

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Re: Stainless Winter Lube

Postby TTS on Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:01 pm

sawgrass wrote:What do you guys use for lube for your stainless guns in the Winter time for shooting outdoors?
We haven't ever had a galling problem but I keep reading about it.

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Re: Stainless Winter Lube

Postby 45Badger on Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:14 pm

Militec, MPRO7, whatever.
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Re: Stainless Winter Lube

Postby engnerdan on Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:17 am

Stainless will gall at all temperature and is more prone the hotter it gets. In my experience any "wet" lube oil or grease will help significantly over using nothing.

A bit of info from a site addressing stainless fasteners.

"2. Lubricating the internal and/or external threads frequently eliminates thread galling. The suggested lubricants should contain substantial amounts of molybdenum disulfide (moly), graphite, mica, or talc. Some proprietary, extreme pressure waxes may also be effective."

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RE: Stainless Winter Lube

Postby gunforhire on Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:39 am

Italian gun grease.
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Re: Stainless Winter Lube

Postby 870TC on Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:47 am

Slide Glide Lite, Pro Shot Gold Grease, or a homemade equivalent made from #2 auto grease mixed with STP.
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Re: Stainless Winter Lube

Postby sawgrass on Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:54 am

870TC wrote:Slide Glide Lite, Pro Shot Gold Grease, or a homemade equivalent made from #2 auto grease mixed with STP.


We are currently using a homemade mixture of 50=50 automatic transmission fluid and engine assembly lube.
It seems to work. I was made aware that some grease will be included in a purchase I'm expecting from Guncrafter Industries.
It got me wondering what people here use. I've seen pics of galling on stainless 1911's, but I sure don't want to experience it.
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Re: Stainless Winter Lube

Postby rukwikenuf on Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:42 am

sawgrass wrote:
870TC wrote:Slide Glide Lite, Pro Shot Gold Grease, or a homemade equivalent made from #2 auto grease mixed with STP.


We are currently using a homemade mixture of 50=50 automatic transmission fluid and engine assembly lube.
It seems to work. I was made aware that some grease will be included in a purchase I'm expecting from Guncrafter Industries.
It got me wondering what people here use. I've seen pics of galling on stainless 1911's, but I sure don't want to experience it.


especially not on a Guncrafter!

i've found good luck with MPro7 and Militec, tempted to try Froglube. i've used Shell Rotella and even Lucas engine oils before
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Re: Stainless Winter Lube

Postby sawgrass on Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:06 am

rukwikenuf wrote:
sawgrass wrote:
870TC wrote:Slide Glide Lite, Pro Shot Gold Grease, or a homemade equivalent made from #2 auto grease mixed with STP.


We are currently using a homemade mixture of 50=50 automatic transmission fluid and engine assembly lube.
It seems to work. I was made aware that some grease will be included in a purchase I'm expecting from Guncrafter Industries.
It got me wondering what people here use. I've seen pics of galling on stainless 1911's, but I sure don't want to experience it.


especially not on a Guncrafter!

i've found good luck with MPro7 and Militec, tempted to try Froglube. i've used Shell Rotella and even Lucas engine oils before


I'm fairly certain that I would cry. I'm curious as to what lube Alex is sending out with them.
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Re: Stainless Winter Lube

Postby sawgrass on Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:37 am

Here is something that Jess Christensen wrote to me this am. Jess is a Gunsmith at Guncrafter Industries.

Hi ------------,
How are you. We use RIG+P Stainless steel grease in our shop. I also use it on my various carry guns, because oil just run off the guns and into the holster.
Stainless guns are notorious for galling up when build tight from the start. A new gun has microscopic pieces of metal braking off. So I usually wipe them clean after app. 50 rounds, and re lube them. After 2 to 300 hundred, I'll start cleaning my gun, like the rest of my guns. Which mean ever time they are used, and no more than 4 to 500 rounds through them before cleaning again.
Guns I'm going to use the same day for competition shooting, get well lubed with chainsaw bar oil. I always clean my guns right after they're used, since fresh dirt comes off easier. Been doing this for over 30 yrs. and has never failed me.

In regards to ammo. Any quality ammo will do fine for breaking it in. I reload all my ammo, since I'm a semi pro competition shooter, and rarely use factory new ammo. So both reloads and new ammo will do. However, reloaded ammo differ in quality, and a new custom 1911 can only be evaluated in quality and reliability with factory made ammo, when everything is said and done.

Congrats on your choice, and good luck with it.

Sincerely Jess
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Stainless Winter Lube

Postby Snowgun on Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:15 pm

870TC wrote:Slide Glide Lite, Pro Shot Gold Grease, or a homemade equivalent made from #2 auto grease mixed with STP.


This, though i would go heavier on the slide glide (standard or heavy). If you hand cycle the slide a couple of times the heavy stuff works fine (use lite for carry)

The chainsaw bar grease is nasty stuff, and can spoil on you if you leave it a long time, no self respecting machinist puts it on an expensive mill for instance.
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Re: Stainless Winter Lube

Postby Rem700 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:09 pm

Snowgun wrote:
870TC wrote:Slide Glide Lite, Pro Shot Gold Grease, or a homemade equivalent made from #2 auto grease mixed with STP.


This, though i would go heavier on the slide glide (standard or heavy). If you hand cycle the slide a couple of times the heavy stuff works fine (use lite for carry)

The chainsaw bar grease is nasty stuff, and can spoil on you if you leave it a long time, no self respecting machinist puts it on an expensive mill for instance.


Who uses chainsaw bar grease on there guns?

How many machinists use slide glide on there expensive mills?
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Re: Stainless Winter Lube

Postby Snowgun on Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:53 pm

Rem700 wrote:
Snowgun wrote:
870TC wrote:Slide Glide Lite, Pro Shot Gold Grease, or a homemade equivalent made from #2 auto grease mixed with STP.


This, though i would go heavier on the slide glide (standard or heavy). If you hand cycle the slide a couple of times the heavy stuff works fine (use lite for carry)

The chainsaw bar grease is nasty stuff, and can spoil on you if you leave it a long time, no self respecting machinist puts it on an expensive mill for instance.


Who uses chainsaw bar grease on there guns?

How many machinists use slide glide on there expensive mills?


Most machinists use Vactra 2 on their ways and screws, it is not sticky but has tacifiers that keep it where it is put and don't allow it to run all over the place like oils.

Slide glide i've heard is made from similar stuff but with more tacifiers as it gets heavier. So in a sense machinists ARE putting a version of slide glide on their mills. ;)

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Re: Stainless Winter Lube

Postby FJ540 on Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:10 pm

The tacifier used a lot in way oil seems to be paraffin wax. That stuff will turn to snot in the cold. I made the mistake of using way oil (I have gallons of it) in a chainsaw because my bar oil was up north. Then took that saw up north in the cold and the oil wouldn't flow right. Ended up leaving a gooey mess all over the bar.
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Stainless Winter Lube

Postby Snowgun on Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:32 pm

FJ540 wrote:The tacifier used a lot in way oil seems to be paraffin wax. That stuff will turn to snot in the cold. I made the mistake of using way oil (I have gallons of it) in a chainsaw because my bar oil was up north. Then took that saw up north in the cold and the oil wouldn't flow right. Ended up leaving a gooey mess all over the bar.


Maybe your way oil sucks? ;) my shop isnt heated, and while my cutting fluid has separated out and frozen, my vactra and slide glide are good to go! :)
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