Heffay wrote:FJ540 wrote:One of the "victims" had a heart attack. We really need to ban those - they kill way more people than guns.

Please stop using analogies that compare deaths to the individual with deaths caused to other people. If we're going to strip out suicide deaths from the handgun homicide rate, then we can't use stupid arguments like banning heart attacks, cars or spoons.
Valid analogies are things like alcohol (drunk driving homicides) or second hand smoke (both which kill FAR more people than guns, on a per capita and absolute number). The only thing the bad analogies do is make the community look dumb.
Because your arguments around here are so sound...
It's called sarcasm.
There's no way to prove correlation to the heart failure and the incident. It could be coincidental, as much as it was an internalization of stress; which is precisely why you cannot associate it in this event. The only thing they were a victim of was heart failure.