Clip vs Magazine

[ranger]

See the 6:50 mark-----says it best.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoSNHe413rY

[Shako Sparky]

I posted this on a buddy's Facebook page, because he keeps calling mags, "clips". He thinks it makes me look like an ass if I correct him, in reality he just sounds dumb.

[kerns bbo]

Blah blah blah, who cares if someone calls a magazine a clip. You knew what they were talking about, let it go. Same goes with a permit to carry. Stop being a grammar lawyer and get over it. I should get over everyone caring for that matter.

[Heffay]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammunition_clip

The term clip is commonly used to describe a firearm magazine, especially in newspapers, movies, and on television. Because of this usage, the Merriam-Webster dictionary now defines a clip as "a device to hold cartridges for charging the magazines of some rifles; also :a magazine from which ammunition is fed into the chamber of a firearm".

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/clip

Definition of CLIP

1: any of various devices that grip, clasp, or hook
2: a device to hold cartridges for charging the magazines of some rifles; also : a magazine from which ammunition is fed into the chamber of a firearm

Now, I hope we can put this magazine vs clip argument to bed. What a waste of time to argue it. It makes you look like an ass if you correct people.

[tazdevil]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammunition_clip

The term clip is commonly used to describe a firearm magazine, especially in newspapers, movies, and on television. Because of this usage, the Merriam-Webster dictionary now defines a clip as "a device to hold cartridges for charging the magazines of some rifles; also :a magazine from which ammunition is fed into the chamber of a firearm".

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/clip

Definition of CLIP

1: any of various devices that grip, clasp, or hook
2: a device to hold cartridges for charging the magazines of some rifles; also : a magazine from which ammunition is fed into the chamber of a firearm

Now, I hope we can put this magazine vs clip argument to bed. What a waste of time to argue it. It makes you look like an ass if you correct people.

No it makes them look like a ass when they're trying to regulate or ban something that they prove they don't even know what it is. You don't understand something doesn't give you the automatic right to regulate it. Remember the whole "shoulder thing that goes up" deal?

[Heffay]

No it makes them look like a ass when they're trying to regulate or ban something that they prove they don't even know what it is. You don't understand something doesn't give you the automatic right to regulate it. Remember the whole "shoulder thing that goes up" deal?

Well, apparently they are using the term clip correctly.

[ex-LT]

No it makes them look like a ass when they're trying to regulate or ban something that they prove they don't even know what it is. You don't understand something doesn't give you the automatic right to regulate it. Remember the whole "shoulder thing that goes up" deal?

Well, apparently they are using the term clip correctly.

No, it just means that Webster has revised the definition it to mean what the anti crowd wants it to mean.

As the wikipedia link you provided states,

The term clip is commonly used to describe a firearm magazine, especially in newspapers, movies, and on television. Because of this usage, the Merriam-Webster dictionary now defines a clip as "a device to hold cartridges for charging the magazines of some rifles; also :a magazine from which ammunition is fed into the chamber of a firearm".

Just because a bunch of "know nothings" commonly misuse a term, DOESN'T mean their usage is correct.

PS - how ironic is it that YOU, who routinely criticizes people for citing wikipedia in support of their arguments, are now citing wikipedia in support of YOUR argument?

[RangerTim]

I agree with ex-LT, people couldn't understand the term so we change the definition...sounds stupid to me. Its just one of those things that some gun owners can't avoid getting frustrated by. It just gets me when I'm at a gun shop and I hear "how much does that clip hold?" I have to stop myself from saying "Usually 5, but some hold 6 or 7 and one holds 8."

[XDM45]

If you guys think people don't understand the nomenclature and vernacular of guns is confusing to the average joe, try working in IT.

I don't expect most people to be a network engineer and understand how computers and networking operate, but I do expect them to know the basic terminology and fundamental basic operation of a computer, but that's too much. To many people, "The Internet" is the web, email and/or social media. They don't know how to properly shut down their computer, the difference between a restart and shutdown, cold boot vs. warm boot, what the desktop is, how to make shortcuts and why, and the list goes on forever. 95% of IT's job is to figure out what the heck the person is saying and to try and discern not only what they were trying to do and the exact way they were doing it (which is often times less than the optimal method to use to accomplish the task at hand), but what they actually did - along with all the various things they aren't telling you.

Most users could benefit from visiting and reading this website's page, but sadly most won't. http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Guns are easy compared to IT when it comes to speaking with people. I sometimes have call it a "thing-a-ma-bobber-do-hickey-magee" when it has a real name because otherwise the person won't get it. They have an "Appliance Mentality" and think their computer should work like their toaster. Here's a common one... people who say "PC" when they really mean "Microsoft Windows". Technically, a Apple Macintosh *IS* A "PC" since "PC" means "Personal Computer" and not Windows. Sometimes I'll mess with the Appleheads and ask about their PC and when they say it's not, I ask them if it's a mainframe. Snarky, I know, but if you work in technology, you need to have your head out of your a-- -- just like if you work at a gun store, calling a revolver a semi-automatic is equally as idiotic.

There are 10 types of people in this world, those who can relate to this post, and those that won't (or can't).

Please note that some comments will be piped to /dev/null - especially if they involve issues at Layer 8.

Now as for clip vs. magazine, I guess it depends on what your goal is... to be correct? or to communicate? Since many won't smarten up, you need to it dumb down to them like a college professor speaking to a child. Sad to say. Work in IT and you'll know what I mean.

[Heffay]

PS - how ironic is it that YOU, who routinely criticizes people for citing wikipedia in support of their arguments, are now citing wikipedia in support of YOUR argument?

If you notice, I cited Merriam Webster. The people who define the words in the English language. Who say clip is an acceptably synonym for magazine. Whether you like it or not. But hey, if you think Merriam Webster now has a liberal anti-gun agenda, the tighten up that tinfoil hat! You're going to need it.

Languages change. You either adapt to the modern vernacular, or you look like a dinosaur.

[XDM45]

Languages change. You either adapt to the modern vernacular, or you look like a dinosaur.

So I pointed the trigger upstream at the downrange verbatim resourced to a centralized target location with the barell rimshotted across the left-handed stock face.

Why did the yang go ying down the hole into the pie?

Hey man, if you don't understand and can't understand, well, languages change. You either adapt to the modern vernacular, or you look like a dinosaur

[Heffay]

Languages change. You either adapt to the modern vernacular, or you look like a dinosaur.

So I pointed the trigger upstream at the downrange verbatim resourced to a centralized target location with the barell rimshotted across the left-handed stock face.

Why did the yang go ying down the hole into the pie?

Hey man, if you don't understand and can't understand, well, languages change. You either adapt to the modern vernacular, or you look like a dinosaur

Language is changed by society, not by an individual trying to make a really horrible point. And society has said that clips and magazines are synonymous.

The real question is: Why does this bother you so much? Is your resistance to change so strong that you fight language itself?

[Doc Harvey]

"assault rfle"! Go!

[XDM45]

Languages change. You either adapt to the modern vernacular, or you look like a dinosaur.

So I pointed the trigger upstream at the downrange verbatim resourced to a centralized target location with the barell rimshotted across the left-handed stock face.

Why did the yang go ying down the hole into the pie?

Hey man, if you don't understand and can't understand, well, languages change. You either adapt to the modern vernacular, or you look like a dinosaur

Language is changed by society, not by an individual trying to make a really horrible point. And society has said that clips and magazines are synonymous.

The real question is: Why does this bother you so much? Is your resistance to change so strong that you fight language itself?

Society is made up of individuals, and when enough individuals say "gumbalupa" instead of "automobile" or "car", then guess which word "society" will use to define that vehicle?

There needs to be some common ground for language, and again, it's about what your goal is.. if it's to communicate, then sure, I guess if you want to sound like a 15 year old girl, you can write in "text-speak" ala "lke omfg, thts so hawt" and/or if you don't care how your speech and writing are, that's fine too; but there are people out there who prefer to adhere to the old school standards verbatim vs. some trendy fashion word of the day, or to help perpetuate the devolution of the English language in its' proper written and spoken forms. I fall somewhere in the middle between the two extremes. I'm actually quite compromising because I deal with ignorant people every day who refuse to learn about the technology they use,or have come to this country and can't speak the language (usually working in some remedial job such as food or janitorial services), or I'm talking with someone in a call center trying to RMA a part and they can't understand English. It never ceases to amaze me how some people in the service industry fail to properly communicate with those they are supposed to serve, and at some point, you just have to draw the line and say "Enough".

If I told you your favorite 9mm was a .22LR, or that another manufacturer made it vs. the correct one it actually is, I'm sure you'd correct me. Look at all the flack people get on here when they say "Concealed AND Carry" vs. just "Concealed Carry"... or if they say/write that they have a "CCW" / "Concealed Weapons Permit" saomeone is bound to pipe in with "PTC" / "Permit To Carry" since that's what Minnesota has.

Words have power and meaning. If you doubt that, please go to south central Los Angeles and yell the "N" word at the top of your lungs and then after you duck the bullets fired at you, explain to them how you were asking if they wanted ice cream.

[PhilaBOR]

So when will Webster define bullet to be a synonym of cartridge? If we're going down the common usage rabbit hole.