Assault Ban To Be Introduced on 1-24-13

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Re: Assault Ban To Be Introduced on 1-24-13

Postby 2in2out on Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:15 pm

jdege wrote:
Thunder71 wrote:Mini-14 is fine, just don't get the tactical. :?

How long does it take you to swap stocks on a Mini-14? 30 seconds?


Yup, about that long. Not quite as easy as a 10/22 stock, but pretty close.

Not that I would know, since I don't have any guns.....
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Re: Assault Ban To Be Introduced on 1-24-13

Postby jdege on Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:26 pm

2in2out wrote:Not that I would know, since I don't have any guns.....

Did you lose all of yours in a boating accident, too?
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Re: Assault Ban To Be Introduced on 1-24-13

Postby XDM45 on Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:28 pm

...and on the news tonight some idiot points an unloaded AK-47 he just bought (in case there's a gun ban on "assault weapons") at his 16 year old daughter because she received 2 B grades vs. all As. The kicker? He's a Russian Orthodox priest. Kickin' a-- for Jesus?
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Re: Assault Ban To Be Introduced on 1-24-13

Postby 2in2out on Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:11 am

AP News is reporting that Obama will be interviewed in the February 11 edition of the New Republic. I'm not sure what the New Republic is - must be a magazine.

Anyway, he's quoted in the interview as saying that gun control advocates need to listen to gun owners, because hunting is a very important part of our culture. It sounds like he's defending hunting, and says it's okay to own firearms for hunting.

The interviewer supposedly asked him if he shto guns, and he said that he shoots skeet at Camp David.

Will he win anyone over with this sleezy approach? :x Will he be able to divide hunters from semiautomatic gun owners? :badmood:
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Re: Assault Ban To Be Introduced on 1-24-13

Postby Heffay on Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:15 am

2in2out wrote:Will he win anyone over with this sleezy approach? :x Will he be able to divide hunters from semiautomatic gun owners? :badmood:


Well, we have him treating hunters nice, and us calling them FUDDs.

What do you think?
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Re: Assault Ban To Be Introduced on 1-24-13

Postby LePetomane on Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:53 pm

2in2out wrote:AP News is reporting that Obama will be interviewed in the February 11 edition of the New Republic. I'm not sure what the New Republic is - must be a magazine.

Anyway, he's quoted in the interview as saying that gun control advocates need to listen to gun owners, because hunting is a very important part of our culture. It sounds like he's defending hunting, and says it's okay to own firearms for hunting.

The interviewer supposedly asked him if he shto guns, and he said that he shoots skeet at Camp David.

Will he win anyone over with this sleezy approach? :x Will he be able to divide hunters from semiautomatic gun owners? :badmood:


This is a play out of the same old playbook which is titled, Divide and Conquer. These tactics will be used in liberal states where hunting has a large presence. As long as the politicians can lure the hunters into a false sense of security by stating that they are after the semiautomatic weapons and not their rifles and shotguns they will be okay with bans. Next they will go after handguns. The line I hear is "who needs a .44 magnum to put a hole in a piece of paper?" Guess who will be the last man (or woman) standing?
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Re: Assault Ban To Be Introduced on 1-24-13

Postby ex-LT on Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:26 am

LePetomane wrote:This is a play out of the same old playbook which is titled, Divide and Conquer. These tactics will be used in liberal states where hunting has a large presence. As long as the politicians can lure the hunters into a false sense of security by stating that they are after the semiautomatic weapons and not their rifles and shotguns they will be okay with bans. Next they will go after handguns. The line I hear is "who needs a .44 magnum to put a hole in a piece of paper?" Guess who will be the last man (or woman) standing?

In my experience, they're going to have to word the argument a little differently. I realize I'm just a tiny cross section of the hunting population, but in the group I deer hunt with, more people use semi-auto rifles (Winchester Model 100s, Remington 740/742/7400, BAR) than use pumps, bolts, and lever actions combined. The numbers are even more exaggerated when you start talking about pheasant hunting. There, the autoloaders outnumber pumps about 2:1.
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Re: Assault Ban To Be Introduced on 1-24-13

Postby jdege on Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:29 am

LePetomane wrote:As long as the politicians can lure the hunters into a false sense of security by stating that they are after the semiautomatic weapons and not their rifles and shotguns they will be okay with bans.

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Re: Assault Ban To Be Introduced on 1-24-13

Postby jschroeder on Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:03 am

The Second Amendment seems pretty simple and straightforward to me. The terms "Arms" isn't limited there, either by definition ("musket", "rifle", etc) or purpose ("for hunting"). In point of fact, as opposed to limiting arms, the Amendment does exactly the opposite, providing justification for their necessity ("security").

The Constitution wasn't written to be cryptic and unintelligible. It was written in fairly plain language so that everyone could understand it. As Jefferson said, It is every American's right and obligation to read and interpret the Constitution for himself.

I just don't see limits in it, but I suppose those that want to see them will, even if they have to make them up. As Jefferson said,

"On every question of construction, let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed."

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