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GOCRA: Fights for your rights at the Capitol next Tue-Thr

Postby xd ED on Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:56 pm

Also, how difficult is it to bail when I need to leave? (1100). Does it create a distraction? Can/ should one position them self near an exit?
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Postby photogpat on Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:07 pm

Tuesday will likely be quite crowded. That being said, I'm certain people will be moving during the hearings. If you have to go, you have to go. Seats open up that way too!
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Postby Tronster on Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:13 pm

How many are going on Thursday?
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Postby stoneboat on Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:23 pm

I read through them kinda quickly. It seems like HF 241 242 243 244 are worse.

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Postby themaddhatter on Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:26 am

stoneboat wrote:I read through them kinda quickly. It seems like HF 241 242 243 244 are worse.

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There isn't anything good about them. No two ways about it...

Do you have an update on what sessions seem to have bodies "lacking"? I could (in theory) attend all five, but if it looks like there is a time slot really needing some "weight", I would prefer to be present there (if you ever meet me, you will know what I mean by "weight").

If I do attend all five, I would be stuck in the cities all day. Will do it if needed though.
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Postby XDM45 on Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:08 am

themaddhatter wrote:
stoneboat wrote:I read through them kinda quickly. It seems like HF 241 242 243 244 are worse.

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There isn't anything good about them. No two ways about it...

Do you have an update on what sessions seem to have bodies "lacking"? I could (in theory) attend all five, but if it looks like there is a time slot really needing some "weight", I would prefer to be present there (if you ever meet me, you will know what I mean by "weight").

If I do attend all five, I would be stuck in the cities all day. Will do it if needed though.


YES, it's needed.

If I could be there, I would, but I'm working and don't have the extra PTO accrued I'd need quite yet.
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Postby SSBotanyBay on Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:16 am

I am going to make either the Wed. morning or Thurs. morning session. If anyone else from the SE part of the state is planning on heading up---PM me and we can try to get a carpool together.
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Postby Greg on Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:47 am

I'll be working in Wichita, KS Monday-Wednesday but I might be back in time for the Thursday sessions.
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Postby photogpat on Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:52 am

PM me for scheduling dates and times if you'd like some guidance. I'm the "rabble rouser" for GOCRA for next week.

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Postby MNHandK on Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:38 pm

I wish the light rail was up and running. Would make the trip there a breeze for me from downtown Mpls. I'm going to try and make Thursday, for sure Friday.
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Postby photogpat on Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:50 pm

MNHandK wrote:I wish the light rail was up and running. Would make the trip there a breeze for me from downtown Mpls. I'm going to try and make Thursday, for sure Friday.


Tuesday - Thursday is vastly more important than Friday if you had to choose.
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Re: GOCRA: Fights for your rights at the Capitol next Tue-Thr

Postby clauwitz on Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:41 pm

Here's my summary of the proposed laws that'll be discussed in committee at the MN state legislature this coming week, for your reading pleasure:

HF237:
1) Amends MN Statute 624.713 to make it easier to restrict the possession of firearms without due process by striking "by a judicial determination" from text relating to treatment or confinement for mental illness or substance abuse.  So if you or someone else puts you into treatment for either, you lose your rights immediately and without your day in court.  There is a process you can go through to restore your rights.

2) Amends MN Statute 624.7131 to allow police chiefs/sheriffs to charge up to $25 for permits to purchase (for handguns and semi-automatic military-style assault weapons).  It also allows them to, if they can't find your criminal record within the current 7 day window, require you to come in and get fingerprinted like a criminal so they can find your record. It also negates the use of a MN concealed weapons permit (CWP) as a permit to purchase once the CWP is more than a year old.

3) Amends MN Statute 624.7132 to restrict private party transfers, except to relatives, without use of a FFL dealer.

HF 238: Amends MN Statute 609.66, subdivision 1d to make it a felony punishable by up to 5 years and/or $10000 fine for persons with a concealed weapons permit to possess a firearm on a elementary, middle, or high (secondary) school and child care center property, instead of a misdemeanor. Also removes the exemption from forfeiture of firearms carried with a permit under those conditions.

HF 239: Minnesota Statute, section 624.714, subdivision 17 currently says that if you are ordered to leave a private establishment by the owner or his/her agent because you are carrying a firearm and you don't, you've committed a petty misdemeanor.  HF 239 amends this to increase the charge  from a petty to a gross misdemeanor and makes a second offense a felony.  It also removes the exemption from forfeiture for firearms carried during such an offense.  

HF 240 Amends Minnesota Statutes 2012, sections 624.7131, subdivisions 2, 4; 624.7132, subdivisions 2, 3, 5, 13; 624.714, subdivisions 2, 6, 12, 16 by adding a paragraph allowing sheriffs to deny CWPs for past police contacts that indicate (not conviction in a court of law) dangerous or violent behavior, chemical dependency, or mental health problems. Also strikes the ability of non-residents (like a North Dakota resident) from getting a MN CWP.

HF 241 is the big one: Assault Weapons Ban.  It changes the current statutory definition of an assault weapon (take a peek at it to see how, they're both arbitrary). It outlaws possession of any firearms meeting the definition of an assault weapon unless you owned it before 1 February 2013 (yesterday), register it every year (including paying a fee), store it in accordance with the local police's guidelines, have the storage inspected yearly by the police.  Once you die, the firearm will be destroyed. 

HF 242 is the second biggest one: "Large" capacity magazine ban.  This makes any magazine, detachable or otherwise, that hold more than 10 rounds illegal (except tube magazines).  No registration allowed for pre-ban magazines.

HF 243 is 242, except 7 rounds instead of 10. 

HF 244. Makes it a gross misdemeanor and removes one's right to possess firearms if one is convicted of falsely submitting a report of the theft/loss of a firearm.  It's being called the "canoe accident loophole closure" by some people on the internet.  You know, because that's where all the assault weapons are going to go if anything like this passes. To the bottom of a lake in a canoe accident.
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