SPLIT ** General conversation about how ranges should be run

[Evad]

That sounds like me. If it was, I was function testing a few new mags (2 passed, 1 failed) and I was getting some recoil cycles on a new sight mount which also failed (my fault, not the mount). I'll keep this thread in mind the next time I get a new non-magnified red dot so I know to only run it at 400. Where is Heffay with his famous 'operators' line?

Could be if you did it for almost ninety minutes. You, or whoever it was....hope like hell those weren't today's retail price rounds. Reloads I have no idea the cost of for an AR, but at retail today that was enough ammo to buy all three guns we were using

[XDM45]

You some sort of business competitor, or ex-employee of Bill's?

I'm neither.

I'm a gun owner who doesn't want to get shot by one of the rent-a-boomstick-crowd and be around anyone negligent with a firearm.

and a blow hard who doesn't know much about guns.

That'd actually hurt if your opinion matter to me, which it does not. Have a nice day and hey, be sage out there

[tman]

If there's cover that a pistol round can't penetrate, then yes, I could see a rifle being used in CQC, but you're a lot more maneuverable with a pistol than some big or even smaller sized rifle. I'm sure the deciding factors in SWAT using rifles over pistols is that rifles hold more ammo and can penetrate some cover that pistol rounds cannot, so why switch mid-fight? Use a rifle. I get that. It makes sense in that situation. It's the same reason the military uses them (and then some, but that's going too far down the rabbit hole). In a SWAT/military situation, I'd have a gas mask too, but I don't really need one for home defense unless James Holmes is going to rob me, now do I?

I guess I should specify it a bit further since some ire has been induced. Next time I'll write like a lawyer and try and be as all inclusive as possible.

For the average home owner who doesn't have brick / steel interior walls, swinging a rifle around like John Rambo makes as much sense as swinging a DE 50 does for home defense, but hey, to each their own. My point of view was and is coming from your average home owner not living in a warzone, not in the military, not on a SWAT team, just John Q Public Home Owner. I don't know what percentage of pistols vs. rifles used for home defense are, but there's probably more pistols kept on a nightstand than AR-15s; and I'm not saying rifles should NEVER be used in CQC situations either, I'm just saying for the average home owner, is that really the best first choice? To each their own. My .45ACP works just fine.

Thanks for giving the anti's some more ammo to separate us from our rifles.

"XDM45 agrees that homeowners have absolutely no use for an assault weapon for home defense. They're obviously way too powerful and dangerous for that."

You should do some research like you did before you bought your carry pistol.

BTW, if I could work my entire patrol shift with my carbine slung across my chest, I just might.



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[XDM45]

Thanks for giving the anti's some more ammo to separate us from our rifles.
oh please... get off that tired old horse.

"XDM45 agrees that homeowners have absolutely no use for an assault weapon for home defense. They're obviously way too powerful and dangerous for that."
Jesus H. there seems to be a major problem around here with people being to not read exactly what I wrote and to assume their own incorrect meanings. I never said any of that. Scroll back and show me where I said that verbatim. You can't. I basically said it's not the most ideal weapon for a home owner, but if you feel the need to get your Rambo Freak On with an AR-15 with a 30-round mag, whatever floats yer boat man.

You should do some research like you did before you bought your carry pistol.
I did and my pistol is just fine, thanks for asking. I don't have any problem carrying it.

[justsomeguy]

XDM,

i eat pieces of **** better than you for breakfast

[XDM45]

@justsomeguy

Not sure what ya said because you're on my ignore list.

Some people should have been swallowed, not born. You're one of them.

[justsomeguy]

@justsomeguy

Not sure what ya said because you're on my ignore list.

Some people should have been swallowed, not born. You're one of them.

Responding to someone ya blocked?????

BTW, that's the reason ya won't have to worry bout me gettin ur girl pregnant

[Paul]

Thanks for giving the anti's some more ammo to separate us from our rifles.
oh please... get off that tired old horse.

"XDM45 agrees that homeowners have absolutely no use for an assault weapon for home defense. They're obviously way too powerful and dangerous for that."
Jesus H. there seems to be a major problem around here with people being to not read exactly what I wrote and to assume their own incorrect meanings. I never said any of that. Scroll back and show me where I said that verbatim. You can't. I basically said it's not the most ideal weapon for a home owner, but if you feel the need to get your Rambo Freak On with an AR-15 with a 30-round mag, whatever floats yer boat man.

You should do some research like you did before you bought your carry pistol.
I did and my pistol is just fine, thanks for asking. I don't have any problem carrying it.

Nobody is trying to put words in your mouth, but referring to people who own/use AR's as Rambo Freaks is divisive and the way the liberal media would like to portray us.

[XDM45]

Thanks for giving the anti's some more ammo to separate us from our rifles.
oh please... get off that tired old horse.

"XDM45 agrees that homeowners have absolutely no use for an assault weapon for home defense. They're obviously way too powerful and dangerous for that."
Jesus H. there seems to be a major problem around here with people being to not read exactly what I wrote and to assume their own incorrect meanings. I never said any of that. Scroll back and show me where I said that verbatim. You can't. I basically said it's not the most ideal weapon for a home owner, but if you feel the need to get your Rambo Freak On with an AR-15 with a 30-round mag, whatever floats yer boat man.

You should do some research like you did before you bought your carry pistol.
I did and my pistol is just fine, thanks for asking. I don't have any problem carrying it.

Nobody is trying to put words in your mouth, but referring to people who own/use AR's as Rambo Freaks is divisive and the way the liberal media would like to portray us.

Alright, I'll concede that. That was a bit too far, I'm sorry.

[Mn01r6]

I am convinced "justsomeguy" is an alter ego created by XDM45 to take the focus off of his crazy off the reservation posts in this thread.

[justsomeguy]

Thanks for giving the anti's some more ammo to separate us from our rifles.
oh please... get off that tired old horse.

"XDM45 agrees that homeowners have absolutely no use for an assault weapon for home defense. They're obviously way too powerful and dangerous for that."
Jesus H. there seems to be a major problem around here with people being to not read exactly what I wrote and to assume their own incorrect meanings. I never said any of that. Scroll back and show me where I said that verbatim. You can't. I basically said it's not the most ideal weapon for a home owner, but if you feel the need to get your Rambo Freak On with an AR-15 with a 30-round mag, whatever floats yer boat man.

You should do some research like you did before you bought your carry pistol.
I did and my pistol is just fine, thanks for asking. I don't have any problem carrying it.

Nobody is trying to put words in your mouth, but referring to people who own/use AR's as Rambo Freaks is divisive and the way the liberal media would like to portray us.

Alright, I'll concede that. That was a bit too far, I'm sorry.

Especially coming from XDM who wants to ban use of the term "clip" in a shooting range. CLOWN.

[XDM45]

I am convinced "justsomeguy" is an alter ego created by XDM45 to take the focus off of his crazy off the reservation posts in this thread.

..and you'd be incorrect about that. I've never wasted time with sock puppet accounts or playing such games. I'm sure the mods can see IP and browser info. I'm use Chromium (FOSS version of Google Chrome) on a Debian-based Linux distro. (Nope, I don't use Windows or Mac.)

Output from uname -a

Linux 3.2.0-33-generic #52-Ubuntu SMP Thu Oct 18 16:29:15 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

[Mn01r6]

And so someone with that your knowledge would never know how to spoof an IP or remote in to another box and post from half way across the state, right? I think you just outed yourself.

ETA: changes tracked

[XDM45]

And so someone with that knowledge would never know how to spoof an IP or remote in to another box and post from half way across the state, right? I think you just outed yourself.

He's got an AR-15 with a 30-round mag so he can spree kill lots of people!!

Just because you CAN doesn't me you DO. By your logic, anyone with a large magazine or rifle can CAN be used to kill lots of people is automatically guilty of it just because they have the potential.

Go back to your Million Moms meeting will ya?

[justsomeguy]

And so someone with that your knowledge would never know how to spoof an IP or remote in to another box and post from half way across the state, right? I think you just outed yourself.

ETA: changes tracked

I wouldn't do that, this justsomeguy is an asshat, and I don't have the time or energy for that sort of thing anyway. As I said before, the mods can tell by the IP address.