Five More Bills?

[johnlewjohn]

Kare 11 is reporting five addtional bills submitted with no details on them?
These are in addition to what we already knew about?

Thanks

John

[Thunder71]

If they are, they better be pro gun bills - I'm sick of this crap, every time someone does something evil they want to take away rights from those who didn't do it.

[Evad]

If they are, they better be pro gun bills - I'm sick of this crap, every time someone does something evil they want to take away rights from those who didn't do it.

There could be no gun deaths for five years and we would still see bills from people who don't like them.

[BBeckwith]

They are not good bills. One of them I believe HF 298 would kill state preemption. It would allow cities to make a case for home rule and special ability to change the carry law inside their city.

Edit: Sorry HF 298

[minnesotapoker]

They are not good bills. One of them I believe HF 293 would kill state preemption. It would allow cities to make a case for home rule and special ability to change the carry law inside their city.

So this is what Rep John Lesch was driving at when he asked Prof Olsen the follow up question Tuesday morning on metro v. rural mindset? Hummmm... They just don't stop do they?

[ForeverTwoWheels]

They are not good bills. One of them I believe HF 293 would kill state preemption. It would allow cities to make a case for home rule and special ability to change the carry law inside their city.

McDonald v Chicago seems to come to mind


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[plblark]

http://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/comm/s ... comm=88022
Agenda for Thursday:
Room 10 State Office Building
Committee convenes at 10am. seating in hearing room will be limited to first 150 in line (ticketed)

Committee will recess at noon and reconvene at 6 p.m.

HF285 (Lesch) Firearm lawful possession modified.
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bin/bldbill. ... ssion=ls88

HF308 (Simonson) Permit required to purchase, own, possess, or use body armor; and criminal penalties provided.
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bin/bldbill. ... ssion=ls88

HF307 (Simonson) Permit to carry application required to be made to a chief of police of a municipality, and if no chief of police, to a county sheriff.
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bin/bldbill. ... ssion=ls88

HF242 (Hausman) Large-capacity magazine crime established for the manufacture, transfer, or possession of ammunition feeding devices with the capacity to accept more than ten rounds or any conversion kit, part, or combination of parts; terms defined; and criminal penalties provided.
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bin/bldbill. ... ssion=ls88

Bills Removed: HF294 (Rosenthal) Firearm restoration eligibility judicial challenge processes modified for persons who have become ineligible and persons who have been denied a permit to carry a handgun. HF298 (Dehn) Firearms regulation by local units of government allowed in certain circumstances.

[jdege]

HF307 (Simonson) Permit to carry application required to be made to a chief of police of a municipality, and if no chief of police, to a county sheriff.
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bin/bldbill. ... ssion=ls88

Which, when combined with the modifications to preemption included in another bill, would allow Minneapolis to not only not issue carry permits, but to not issue transfer permits, and to not recognize carry permits issued by other jurisdictions.

[tabberski]

Wisconsin keeps getting more attractive every day.

[Dill]

Wisconsin keeps getting more attractive every day.

sadly the same thought has entered my mind should this dreg pass.

[clauwitz]

HF307 (Simonson) Permit to carry application required to be made to a chief of police of a municipality, and if no chief of police, to a county sheriff.
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bin/bldbill. ... ssion=ls88

Which, when combined with the modifications to preemption included in another bill, would allow Minneapolis to not only not issue carry permits, but to not issue transfer permits, and to not recognize carry permits issued by other jurisdictions.

I'm not sure how this is true. I read the bill and all it does is change who is responsible for issuing permits to carry, it doesn't change the shall issue nature of the permits. I didn't read the local preemption bill, as it's been removed from the committee hearings. I would appreciate some exposition.

[jshuberg]

pblpark - when you say that HF298 was removed, do you mean removed from the schedule or actually withdrawn? If only removed from the schedule, has the committee rescheduled it yet?

[Nalez]

Kare 11 is reporting five addtional bills submitted with no details on them?
These are in addition to what we already knew about?

Thanks
John

I think below are the 5 bills (and a 6th somewhat related; but not quite).
2/4/2013: H. F. 285, A bill for an act relating to public safety; modifying the lawful possession of firearms; amending Minnesota Statutes 2012, sections 624.712, subdivision 5, by adding a subdivision; 624.713, subdivision 1, by adding a subdivision.

2/4/2013: H. F. 294, A bill for an act relating to public safety; modifying the judicial process for restoring firearms eligibility to certain persons who have become ineligible; modifying the judicial challenge process for persons who have been denied a permit to carry a handgun; amending Minnesota Statutes 2012, sections 609.165, subdivision 1d; 624.713, subdivision 4; 624.714, subdivisions 6, 8, 12.

2/4/2013: H. F. 298, A bill for an act relating to public safety; authorizing local units of government to regulate firearms in certain instances; amending Minnesota Statutes 2012, sections 471.633; 624.7131, subdivision 12; 624.7132, subdivision 16; 624.714, subdivision 23; 624.717; 624.7191, subdivision 4.

2/4/2013: H. F. 307, A bill for an act relating to public safety; requiring persons to first make application for a permit to carry to a chief of police of a municipality and if no chief of police to a county sheriff; amending Minnesota Statutes 2012, sections 624.714, subdivisions 2, 2a, 3, 4, 6, 7, 7a, 8, 8a, 11a, 12, 12a, 14, 15, 16, 19, 20, 21, 23; 624.7143, subdivision 2.

2/4/2013: H. F. 308, A bill for an act relating to public safety; requiring a permit to purchase, own, possess, or use body armor; providing criminal penalties for purchase, ownership, possession, or use of body armor without a permit; proposing coding for new law in Minnesota Statutes, chapter 609.

2/4/2013: H. F. 309, A bill for an act relating to education finance; expanding health and safety revenue to include facility modifications necessary to make school facilities more secure for students and staff; amending Minnesota Statutes 2012, section 123B.57, subdivisions 6, 6a, by adding a subdivision.

[rico]

Bills Removed: HF294 (Rosenthal) Firearm restoration eligibility judicial challenge processes modified for persons who have become ineligible and persons who have been denied a permit to carry a handgun. HF298 (Dehn) Firearms regulation by local units of government allowed in certain circumstances.

Unfortunately, this doesn't mean these are no longer being considered. More often that not being "removed" means the provisions in the bill are being incorporated into a different bill OR the bill itself is being moved to a different committee. I don't know the status of these two specifically, but we can't rest thinking these two are dead. I hope they are, but seeing the gun-grab effort currently playing out I'm not that confident.

[St. Olaf]

I think it will come down to one bill at the end with stuff from various other bills dumped together and then they'll amend and change to confuse the issue and then try to push that through quickly and get some harsh restrictions passed in the process.