grousemaster wrote:A friend of mine is a lobbyist, he's at the capital daily. He tells me 241 will probably not even be voted on.
Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty
XDM45 wrote:I have an interesting question..................
What will happen when the bans fail? (...and I believe they will with our concentrated efforts.)
Well, first we will all rejoice in our victories!! YES!!
Ok.
Now what?
You don't have to be psychic to know that this will come to pass again after the next spree shooting. Some maniac will go on a killing spree and some politicians will pro[pose gun control legislation. I see a good start with HF 419 to protect our firearms rights. One would hope and think that 2A alone would be enough, but clearly it's not.... because if it was, we wouldn't have had the federal gun ban in 1994-2004, or this current round of bills in Minnesota, or what New York just passed and is going through, etc.
How do we keep this energy flow going towards pro-gun ownership by law-abiding citizens?
MXGreg wrote:XDM45 wrote:I have an interesting question..................
What will happen when the bans fail? (...and I believe they will with our concentrated efforts.)
Well, first we will all rejoice in our victories!! YES!!
Ok.
Now what?
You don't have to be psychic to know that this will come to pass again after the next spree shooting. Some maniac will go on a killing spree and some politicians will pro[pose gun control legislation. I see a good start with HF 419 to protect our firearms rights. One would hope and think that 2A alone would be enough, but clearly it's not.... because if it was, we wouldn't have had the federal gun ban in 1994-2004, or this current round of bills in Minnesota, or what New York just passed and is going through, etc.
How do we keep this energy flow going towards pro-gun ownership by law-abiding citizens?
If all this gun ban stuff dries up and blows away (this time), the next step is to do whatever it takes to put gun rights into the MN constitution. Start rounding up signatures and legislators and try to get it on the ballot. We just had two examples of how NOT to do it (marriage and id). We need to learn and not make the same mistakes.
whiteox wrote:HF 419 is unconstitutional. It's a waste of time and resources.
I know that is unpopular around here, but it is a fact.
bpacman wrote:whiteox wrote:HF 419 is unconstitutional. It's a waste of time and resources.
I know that is unpopular around here, but it is a fact.
Please tell us what part of this bill is unconstitutional.
grousemaster wrote:A friend of mine is a lobbyist, he's at the capital daily. He tells me 241 will probably not even be voted on.
JustPlainT wrote:grousemaster wrote:A friend of mine is a lobbyist, he's at the capital daily. He tells me 241 will probably not even be voted on.
While that is some relief, I'm concerned this kind of talk is going to lull people to a false sense of safety.
Sure, they may not vote on 241....but they may vote on an omnibus bill with the text of 241 inside of it.
I'll stay at full alert, thanks.
Any other information that can be shared?
JustPlainT wrote:grousemaster wrote:A friend of mine is a lobbyist, he's at the capital daily. He tells me 241 will probably not even be voted on.
JustPlainT wrote:While that is some relief, I'm concerned this kind of talk is going to lull people to a false sense of safety.
JustPlainT wrote:Sure, they may not vote on 241....but they may vote on an omnibus bill with the text of 241 inside of it.
I'll stay at full alert, thanks.
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