Talking point: What "reasonable gun control" REALLY means

[Seismic Sam]

The Democraps have decided to come ALL THE WAY out of the closet on "reasonable gun control" in Missouri, and I'm posting this here for whatever value it may have in discrediting thw Democratic effort in general. If that jackwad Akin can be held partly responsible for Romney loosing the election, then maybe it can work the other way around too.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/02/missouri-democrats-intruduce-legislation-to-confiscate-firearms-gives-gunowners-90-days-to-turn-in-guns

[LarryFlew]

Dems in Komifornia doing a similar bill

http://offgridsurvival.com/californiato ... efirearms/

[JohnK87]

Anything short of confiscation now is just a step to confiscation later. Without a complete ban on firearms, turnins and mandatory penalties, you have no hope of reducing the firearms crime rate.

When the new law doesn't work, they'll pass another more restrictive law.

[sgruenhagen44]

ya can't fix stupid.

[XDM45]

"Democraps" "libtards" "Komifornia", really guys, fine if you want to do that, but it doesn't help our cause.... in fact, it makes us look like a bunch of 12 year olds.

"He gonna take my guns. He's a poopy pants dunderhead and I'm gonna cry cause Mr Flickerstick is a libtard, Dumb, Freakin', Loser."

Really?

We as a community want to sound like that?

Yeah yeah yeah. I know "but I'm just one guy and I can say what I want, it's free speech" etc, is what people will say, ok, true... BUT just like when I OC, to John Q Public I AM the gun community. Even though I represent myself only as I go on about my business, you bet anything I say or do will apply to ALL gun owners, so yeah, I watch my butt for two reasons.... 1) I'm armed. 2) I want to represent myself in a good light. Of course I acknowledge the above said about me representing all gun owners to John Q Public, so there's a third one......3) I want to represent the gun community in a good light. The point I'm trying to make isn't about OC or carrying in general, it's about representation, intended or otherwise.

Unfair as it is to look at one person to represent the whole, but people do it.

When other people OC, it's done to them as well.
When other people hunt and someone sees a hunter, they ARE all hunters to John Q Public.

It's not just with guns, but many things. People don't look at the individual and say "Well, he was a nut job for shooting up that store with a stolen AR-15", no, they blame the gun and ALL AR-15s are black and evil....to them. People ought to not own them they will say.

We come across as effen idiots when we sit there and say stupid stuff like that. Why not make a shirt and says "My AR-15 is black, powerful and will defend my rights, unlike our President." You think I'd draw heat for OCing? Where THAT in public once. Equally offensive is the speech on here.

Search engines find things and index them. For example, https://www.google.com/search?q=site:mn ... %20libtard

Let Protect MN, the antis sound like 12 year olds on a playground, but we are more intelligent than that. Let's start acting like it, shall we?

[xd ED]

Anything short of confiscation now is just a step to confiscation later. Without a complete ban on firearms, turnins and mandatory penalties, you have no hope of reducing the firearms crime rate.

When the new law doesn't work, they'll pass another more restrictive law.

Really?

[XDM45]

Anything short of confiscation now is just a step to confiscation later. Without a complete ban on firearms, turnins and mandatory penalties, you have no hope of reducing the firearms crime rate.

When the new law doesn't work, they'll pass another more restrictive law.

Really?

People killed before guns and they will kill after them. Guns aren't the problem. Also, CBRN is pretty effective at killing more people than guns ever were.

[FJ540]

"(2) Render the assault weapon permanently inoperable;"

Some might say this is a solution to bad politicians. They should be careful what they ask for.

[Heffay]

"Democraps" "libtards" "Komifornia", really guys, fine if you want to do that, but it doesn't help our cause.... in fact, it makes us look like a bunch of 12 year olds.

Yup. It's a convention of children around here.

[JustPlainT]

Let Protect MN, the antis sound like 12 year olds on a playground, but we are more intelligent than that. Let's start acting like it, shall we?

This. ^^^

Please act like adults. There's no reason to lower ourselves to their level, and it will come back to bite us in the ass later.

[2in2out]

I think every progun speaker should have a picture of several founding fathers or a copy of the Bill of Rights on the table in front of them, similar to the emotion card the control people were trying to play during the House committee hearings.

Another thing that's really bothering me is their use of the term gun safety. We own that, having used it for decades to describe courses where new shooters are taught to handle firearms safely. I think this needs to be taken back from them. Common sense, gun safety, protecting Minnesotans from violence.... this is OUR domain. If they want to twist this all around in an attempt to gain the high ground, then we need to regain and hold it.

Control, confiscation and bans - this is THEIR domain, and it needs to be applied to them whenever possible.

[sansooshooter]

I think every progun speaker should have a picture of several founding fathers or a copy of the Bill of Rights on the table in front of them, similar to the emotion card the control people were trying to play during the House committee hearings.

Another thing that's really bothering me is their use of the term gun safety. We own that, having used it for decades to describe courses where new shooters are taught to handle firearms safely. I think this needs to be taken back from them. Common sense, gun safety, protecting Minnesotans from violence.... this is OUR domain. If they want to twist this all around in an attempt to gain the high ground, then we need to regain and hold it.

Control, confiscation and bans - this is THEIR domain, and it needs to be applied to them whenever possible.

BINGO !!! You SIR are making sense.
Bravo.
I will keep this in mind . When talking to people who are not on our side yet!

[Heffay]

I think every progun speaker should have a picture of several founding fathers or a copy of the Bill of Rights on the table in front of them, similar to the emotion card the control people were trying to play during the House committee hearings.

I don't think that will have the impact you think it will. It's not the same as a picture of a dead 5 year old.

[XDM45]

I think every progun speaker should have a picture of several founding fathers or a copy of the Bill of Rights on the table in front of them, similar to the emotion card the control people were trying to play during the House committee hearings.

I don't think that will have the impact you think it will. It's not the same as a picture of a dead 5 year old.

How about a photo of a dead 5 year old with a parent asking why they can't defend their family by owning guns, and now their child is dead..... I bet that would work. Take the most stringent anti-gun person, give htem a choice of which to use to protect thier child, a cell phone or a gun and I'd bet they grab the gun, not the phone.

[Heffay]

How about a photo of a dead 5 year old with a parent asking why they can't defend their family by owning guns, and now their child is dead..... I bet that would work. Take the most stringent anti-gun person, give htem a choice of which to use to protect thier child, a cell phone or a gun and I'd bet they grab the gun, not the phone.

Much better. And they can even use the "if it saves just one life" argument too, as a rebuttal to when the gun control proponents use it.