MPR and Adam Lanza

View · by **sgruenhagen44** on Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:49 pm

I heard something very disturbing to me while driving a customer's car at work today. On MPR 91.1 they were laying blame on Lanza's mother for the Newton shootings. Their reasoning was that she introduced him to guns at an early age, and of course violent video games. I think it is pretty sad that they would lay blame on someone who is dead. Hmmm, some how me and millions of others have avoided murdering our mothers. If anything children should be exposed to firearms at an early age, it gives you respect for firearms, but of course I don't have to tell you guys that.

Side note... Every year I think about becoming a member of MPR because I love 89.3 the current so much... I'm glad I didn't contribute. I suppose we have enough liberals in Minnesota to keep that station going. Henry Rollins made comments about High- cap mags (don't need to go there.) Then Bob Collins made some other comment earlier this year about deer hunting being more violent than first person shooter video games. I bet they don't even think they have listeners like me...

View · by **xd ED** on Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:55 pm

They play to their base, and do it well. There are public radio stations I support, but nothing in the MPR/ NPR networks. Although I might support them if they ever got off the public dole.

View · by **M4A1** on Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:02 pm

Remember... It is always the dead person's fault.

View · by **sgruenhagen44** on Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:03 pm

Yea, no surprise. But to blame his mother seems a bit low. Granted, I have never met her and know nothing about her. Maybe she abused him? Who knows. But introducing kids to guns is for sure not a bad thing. I remember shooting a squirrel once when I was about 12 with my .22 It was about 100 yards away. It was miracle I even hit the thing, but watchin that thing fall out of the tree that far away really stuck with me. I realized even "just .22s) are lethal and that guns should be respected, I knew that before but it really put stuff in perspective.

View · by **M4A1** on Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:06 pm

What about everyone that took hunter safety in junior high?
These people I tell ya.....

View · by **sgruenhagen44** on Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:12 pm

I started pheasant hunting at 8 years old.... with my red ryder BB gun

My father is an actuary so safety is key. The idea was to educate me about gun safety before I even took the class. I walked side by side with him and practiced my swing and keeping my barrel in a safe direction, and keeping the safety on until I was ready to shoot etc etc.

View · by **20mm** on Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:56 pm

I blame the mother. She was a the gun owner, and most likely allowed her deranged child easy access to the firearm. A safe worth less than the firearms used in the shooting could have very well prevented the entire incident.

Then again quite a few folks on this forum think it's cool to leave loaded firearms around their house with kids. I guess they think they're masters of hide n' go seek.

View · by **M4A1** on Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:07 pm

20mm wrote:I blame the mother. She was a the gun owner, and most likely allowed her deranged child easy access to the firearm. A safe worth less than the firearms used in the shooting could have very well prevented the entire incident.

Then again quite a few folks on this forum think it's cool to leave loaded firearms around their house with kids. I guess they think they're masters of hide n' go seek.

That's my wife with her 4 siblings. A rifle in every corner, nobody gave a damn.
I grew up with a lot of booze, wine in the house.... All home made. No family member cared about drinking.

View · by **Chunkychuck** on Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:36 pm

20mm wrote:I blame the mother. She was a the gun owner, and most likely allowed her deranged child easy access to the firearm. A safe worth less than the firearms used in the shooting could have very well prevented the entire incident.
Then again quite a few folks on this forum think it's cool to leave loaded firearms around their house with kids. I guess they think they're masters of hide n' go seek.

Has there been any reports she didn't have a good safe or any safe at all?

View · by **tman** on Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:55 pm

Chunkychuck wrote:
20mm wrote:I blame the mother. She was a the gun owner, and most likely allowed her deranged child easy access to the firearm. A safe worth less than the firearms used in the shooting could have very well prevented the entire incident.
Then again quite a few folks on this forum think it's cool to leave loaded firearms around their house with kids. I guess they think they're masters of hide n' go seek.

Has there been any reports she didn't have a good safe or any safe at all?

Maybe he had to kill her to even get at the guns.

View · by **FJ540** on Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:53 pm

Guns aren't the problem.

I've left rifles out (no BCG) and kiddo doesn't even look at them - he loves shooting his .22, so it's not a lack of interest.

View · by **20mm** on Sat Feb 16, 2013 4:54 am

Chunkychuck wrote:Has there been any reports she didn't have a good safe or any safe at all?

tman wrote:Maybe he had to kill her to even get at the guns.

Yes he killed her, and no they haven't released reports on how the firearms were stored.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/report-nancy ... e-rampage/
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/16/us/connec ... za-profile

Says she had a lock box, and was getting $250,000 a year in alimony payments.

View · by **LePetomane** on Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:25 am

I quit listening to MPR a long time ago. The hosts there are pious and self righteous as well as arrogant. Throw in "folksy" Garrison Kiellor with his arrogant condescension and it really is intolerable.

View · by **Chunkychuck** on Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:45 am

20mm wrote:
Chunkychuck wrote:Has there been any reports she didn't have a good safe or any safe at all?

tman wrote:Maybe he had to kill her to even get at the guns.

Yes he killed her, and no they haven't released reports on how the firearms were stored.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/report-nancy ... e-rampage/
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/16/us/connec ... za-profile

Says she had a lock box, and was getting $250,000 a year in alimony payments.

Then I would say your original post "blaming her" falls in the same category as the anti's who argue for gun control wiithout facts.

View · by **connsolo** on Sat Feb 16, 2013 1:12 pm

Of course she is partly responsible, as is the kid's estranged dad. Even if they weren't her guns she would be partly responsible. She was the kid's keeper. She knew better than anyone that he had issues. All these mass shooters' families have to accept some of the responsibility for their family member's actions, as nobody is in a better position to prevent this stuff than they are. You can't just let a family member sit and sulk and become increasingly detached from humanity. For God's sake, whatever happened to taking care of each other? Especially family.