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Private sale. Did I mess up?

Postby American Capitalist on Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:25 pm

So I sold a firearm considered an "assault weapon" under MN law to another person today. Little did I realize according to state law I was supposed to ask him to show a permit to purchase before selling. He said he already owns multiple ARs and I'm not terribly concerned. Say he doesn't have a permit to purchase, how deep of **** am I in?
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Re: Private sale. Did I mess up?

Postby xd9 on Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:37 pm

Ask an attorney if you are concerned. Not a public forum IMHO
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Postby HOBOWITHASHOTGUN on Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:43 pm

Yes, you have just committed a misdemeanor. All private sales in MN are to be reported to the local authority sheriff/chief of police. Unless transferee shows current driver license and PTP or PTC.
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Postby xd ED on Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:45 pm

HOBOWITHASHOTGUN wrote:Yes, you have just committed a misdemeanor. All private sales in MN are to be reported to the local authority sheriff/chief of police. Unless transferee shows current driver license and PTP or PTC.

Citation for that?
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Postby Squib Joe on Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:47 pm

HOBOWITHASHOTGUN wrote:Yes, you have just committed a misdemeanor. All private sales in MN are to be reported to the local authority sheriff/chief of police. Unless transferee shows current driver license and PTP or PTC.


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Postby t140 on Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:50 pm

American Capitalist wrote:So I sold a firearm considered an "assault weapon" under MN law to another person today. Little did I realize according to state law I was supposed to ask him to show a permit to purchase before selling. He said he already owns multiple ARs and I'm not terribly concerned. Say he doesn't have a permit to purchase, how deep of **** am I in?


You don't need to do anything other than know he's a MN resident. As long as you don't suspect he's prohibited from owning firearms, you're good.
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Postby T.P.F.K.A.M on Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:54 pm

HOBOWITHASHOTGUN wrote:Yes, you have just committed a misdemeanor. All private sales in MN are to be reported to the local authority sheriff/chief of police. Unless transferee shows current driver license and PTP or PTC.


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Re: Private sale. Did I mess up?

Postby HOBOWITHASHOTGUN on Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:54 pm

MN statutes 624.7132 Sorry it's a gross misdemeanor. you can probably plead it down:)
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Re: Private sale. Did I mess up?

Postby Mn01r6 on Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:55 pm

I am pretty sure someone registered an alternate account to mess with the guy. My bet is on XDM45 because he has shown a willingness to do it in the past. viewtopic.php?f=52&t=38992&p=425484#p425484

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Re: Private sale. Did I mess up?

Postby Mn01r6 on Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:57 pm

HOBOWITHASHOTGUN wrote:MN statutes 624.7132 Sorry it's a gross misdemeanor. you can probably plead it down:)


You should probably read subdivision 12 exclusion (1).
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Re: Private sale. Did I mess up?

Postby grousemaster on Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:58 pm

Mn01r6 wrote:I am pretty sure someone registered an alternate account to mess with the guy. My bet is on XDM45 because he has shown a willingness to do it in the past. viewtopic.php?f=52&t=38992&p=425484#p425484


Yea, XDM45 has at least 5 known accounts.
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Re: Private sale. Did I mess up?

Postby HOBOWITHASHOTGUN on Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:58 pm

wow. a new member and this is the way I get treated for trying to help a brother out?! Read the **** law, it's not hard. No wonder it's so easy for liberals to attack gun owners.
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Re: Private sale. Did I mess up?

Postby brad3579 on Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:59 pm

Subd. 12.Exclusions.

Except as otherwise provided in section 609.66, subdivision 1f, this section shall not apply to transfers of antique firearms as curiosities or for their historical significance or value, transfers to or between federally licensed firearms dealers, transfers by order of court, involuntary transfers, transfers at death or the following transfers:

(1) a transfer by a person other than a federally licensed firearms dealer;
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Re: Private sale. Did I mess up?

Postby xd ED on Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:02 am

HOBOWITHASHOTGUN wrote:wow. a new member and this is the way I get treated for trying to help a brother out?! Read the **** law, it's not hard. No wonder it's so easy for liberals to attack gun owners.

Apparently for some it is.
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Re: Private sale. Did I mess up?

Postby HOBOWITHASHOTGUN on Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:07 am

You people better read the exclusions carefully!
Subd. 1f.Gross misdemeanor; transferring firearm without background check.

A person, other than a federally licensed firearms dealer, who transfers a pistol or semiautomatic military-style assault weapon to another without complying with the transfer requirements of section 624.7132, is guilty of a gross misdemeanor if the transferee possesses or uses the weapon within one year after the transfer in furtherance of a felony crime of violence, and if:

(1) the transferee was prohibited from possessing the weapon under section 624.713 at the time of the transfer; or

(2) it was reasonably foreseeable at the time of the transfer that the transferee was likely to use or possess the weapon in furtherance of a felony crime of violence.
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