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Couple bring Smith & Wesson under fire with suit

Postby TC95GT on Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:14 am

Couple bring Smith & Wesson under fire with suit

By: Lynn LaRowe - Texarkana Gazette - Published: 07/30/2008

A Rosston, Ark., couple are suing Smith & Wesson in federal court because of a serious injury allegedly caused by a .460 Magnum revolver.

Todd Brown bought an S&W .460 Magnum revolver last fall. When he tried using it to shoot a deer the day after Christmas, gases escaping from the guns barrel severed his thumb, the suit alleges.

Todd then lowered the gun to see if he had hit the deer, and as he was looking for the deer in the moments following the shot he saw blood shooting up in the air and on his gun and clothes, and he looked and saw that his thumb had been severed from his left hand and there was a deep gash in the flesh of the palm of his left hand extending up to his index finger ... the suit alleges.

Brown decided to purchase the weapon after watching a hunting show promoting the guns use to hunt bigger game, such as deer, the suit states. Brown bought the revolver, a scope and a holster from an authorized S&W dealer in Hope, Ark., on Dec. 21, 2007, for $1,896.58.

On Dec. 26, the opening day of the Christmas deer hunt, Brown tried to use the revolver to shoot a deer.

Monticello, Ark., attorney Cliff Gibson III filed the suit on Browns behalf July 18.

Smith & Wesson President and Chief Operating Officer Leland Nichols said the company could not comment on the suit and had not yet been served with a copy of the complaint.

The suit blames Browns injuries on alleged negligence by Smith & Wesson.

The first area of negligence the suit alleges is in the guns design. The suit asserts that S&W should have had the foresight to design away the risk of harm posed by ... the extraordinarily powerful gases expelled through the barrel-cylinder gap ...

The likelihood that a hunter might move a hand forward on the gun�s barrel when trying to site an animal should have been anticipated by S&W and factored into the gun�s design, the suit states.

This negligence includes ... the failure to reduce the length and weight of the gun barrel, the failure to increase the length of the cylinder, the failure to otherwise provide for better balance of the gun�s hefty weight, and the failure to provide a larger and more robust pistol grip for necessary two-handed firing of this heavy high-powered gun,� the complaint states.

S&W should have realized hunters in the woods wont always have a convenient place to rest the weighty gun when firing, the suit alleges.

Smith and Wesson consequently knew or had reason to know that while hunting in the woods and fields Todd Brown would have to support the heavy weight of this gun while shooting same solely by the strength of his hands and arms, thereby making it likely and probable that hunters, including Todd, would move his free hand forward and closer to the extremely dangerous barrel-cylinder gap in order to support and balance the gun while sighting-in the game, the suit alleges.

The suit also alleges S&W failed to conduct enough testing on the gun before placing it on the market.

Warnings that might have alerted Todd Brown to the alleged dangers of the gun didn�t exist, the suit states.

Further, Smith & Wesson was negligent in failing to give Todd Brown a reasonable and adequate warning and instruction respecting the nature, extent and severity of the danger of the devastating injury and harm (i.e. it will cut your hand off) presented to a shooter by its Model 460 Magnum Revolver, the suit alleges.

The Browns are asking a jury in the Western District of Arkansas, El Dorado division, to award them damages for Todd Browns ... great, grievous and permanent injury to his person, past and future medical expense necessary to treat and care for his injuries, past and future pain, suffering and mental anguish, past and future loss of earnings, loss of earning capacity, and scars and disfigurement to his person, the suit said.

They also want compensation for Kathy Browns loss of consortium.

Smith & Wesson voluntarily recalled an earlier version of the .460 because of problems with the barrel.

The S&W Performance Center Model 460XVR Revolvers manufactured by an outside supplier were found to have substandard steel present in the barrel, according to Smith & Wesson�s Website.

The recall included only Performance Center Model .460 Revolvers shipped before Sept. 18, 2006. Specifically not included in the recall were standard production .460 revolvers.

http://www.texarkanagazette.com/news/lo ... ire-58.php
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Re: Couple bring Smith & Wesson under fire with suit

Postby jac714 on Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:22 am

Well you just can't fix stupid I guess.

I am still having problems seeing how he did this, if just doesn't make sense to put your hand anywhere combustion gasses would get to the thumb.
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Postby bensdad on Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:29 am

"In a related story, a man from BFE is suing Ford for making the F-150 heavy enough to damage his garage. He claims that Ford could have easily reduced the weight of the truck enough that the back wall of his garage could have stopped the truck's forward momentum. The man claims that when he tried to coast the truck to a stop in his garage, it smashed through the back wall and sank in his below-ground pool."

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Postby DeanC on Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:01 am

jac714 wrote:I am still having problems seeing how he did this

You know how he did it. You just don't understand why.

I know why. It's because he thought he knew what he was doing. Shooting the deer was more important to him than safety.

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Postby jac714 on Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:05 am

I get the why, not the how. Where would you put your hand in a natural position that your thumb would be where the gases at the end of the cylinder would cut off the thumb without interfering with the rotation of the cylinder?

That is the part I don't get.
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Postby DeanC on Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:07 am

He's thinking like a semi-auto shooter and trying to support that heavy barrel. I have seem people do it. He's not gripping it so tight that the cylinder won't rotate.
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Postby jac714 on Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:10 am

If you say so, I have been playing with a revolve since I read this post and can not figure out why he would grab the cylinder, the barrel yes but the cylinder would seem unnatural.
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Postby DeanC on Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:31 am

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Postby jac714 on Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:42 am

Got it, thanks.
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Postby cobb on Sat Aug 02, 2008 12:30 pm

jac714 wrote:Well you just can't fix stupid I guess.


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Re: Couple bring Smith & Wesson under fire with suit

Postby jaysong on Sat Aug 02, 2008 12:53 pm

I have fired this same gun in one of my carry classes. (not recommended for carry) A student brought his and after class we shot a few rounds. Fun gun. The weight of the gun makes it very manageable and there is no need to blow your thumb off with gasses to keep it under control. :roll:
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Postby Pat on Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:23 pm

I am scared pooless of revolvers, just because of this thumb-in-the-way thing. I have been shooting 19111 style pistols for so many years, that I know that under pressure I would stick my fat thumb out there, where it does not belong.

Just wondering - Does anybody pick their nose with thumb? I mean, with an accident like this poor, hapless fellow's, life could be a real bummer.
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Re: Couple bring Smith & Wesson under fire with suit

Postby Lady Glock on Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:17 pm

Loss of consortium for his wife? WTF?
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Postby mnglocker on Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:54 pm

Pat wrote:Just wondering - Does anybody pick their nose with thumb? I mean, with an accident like this poor, hapless fellow's, life could be a real bummer.



He can always use his toes, or an ice pick, he's probably poke his brains out though and sue the mfg.
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Re: Couple bring Smith & Wesson under fire with suit

Postby David on Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:07 pm

Lady Glock wrote:Loss of consortium for his wife? WTF?


If he's the breadwinner for the family, under tort law, she can file for damages because he's (in theory) not going to be able to provide for the family to the same standard to which they are accustomed. That's the modern use of the concept, anyway.
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