School shootings from the 1700's to present day in the US

[MXGreg]

From everything I've seen out of St.Olaf, I'm starting to think he's from that school on the other side of town. Not Carlton though......Laura Baker.

[St. Olaf]

And I think you're spouting off with ignorant crap.

Your function is to serve as a provider of tin foil.......rabid and frothy-mouthed Tea Party arguments that can be easily refuted.

I'm not the one picking out an entire group of people and calling them horrible names. We know you can't take care of yourself, pathetic as that may be, you should try not demonizing the people that pay your bills. What Tea Party argument did you refute? You have never made an intelligent argument about anything, all you've done is name call. I would love the chance to debate you in person, for charity or something. It would be too easy.

Almost every post you make is an insult or name calling. You lack the brain power to take care of yourself, which is why you have your hand out demanding money from other people.

Ummmmm.......this may be stating the obvious too obviously, but......Pot to KETTLE.

[ferch]

I thought good liberals were supposed to be concerned with protecting the rights of others - especially the rights of minorities? Those evil rich people are a minority you know.... they have a right to the money they have earned. People DO have a right to have equal opportunity to make as much money as their skills, knowledge, and work ethic allow. Government and these "poor" people don't actually have a right to OTHER peoples' money. I'm not trying to be rude here, and I'm not trying to attack you Olaf. I genuinely do not understand how Progressives interpret the Constitution to read that the needs/desires of the many outweigh the needs/desires of the few.

[Erud]

Hey St. Olaf, you never did answer my question about the 25x increase in tuition costs in the last 25 years. Was just reminded of it as I just put another big check in the mail today.

Boy, that $300 annual tuition in 1987 sure would have been nice....

[St. Olaf]

Hey St. Olaf, you never did answer my question about the 25x increase in tuition costs in the last 25 years. Was just reminded of it as I just put another big check in the mail today.

Boy, that $300 annual tuition in 1987 sure would have been nice....

Yes, I answered you shortly after that post.

[St. Olaf]

I thought good liberals were supposed to be concerned with protecting the rights of others - especially the rights of minorities? Those evil rich people are a minority you know.... they have a right to the money they have earned. People DO have a right to have equal opportunity to make as much money as their skills, knowledge, and work ethic allow. Government and these "poor" people don't actually have a right to OTHER peoples' money. I'm not trying to be rude here, and I'm not trying to attack you Olaf. I genuinely do not understand how Progressives interpret the Constitution to read that the needs/desires of the many outweigh the needs/desires of the few.

Seriously?

All the people have the responsibility to kick in enough out of their excess to make sure everybody has enough to live a healthy life, maybe even a happy life, and at least have equal health care, education and job opportunities.

It costs less in the long run than doing it the ugly way.

I think we all understand that, it's just hard for some people to live it.

[Erud]

Can you direct me to it or summarize the answer for me? Not finding it in this thread..

[St. Olaf]

Can you direct me to it or summarize the answer for me? Not finding it in this thread..

I'm not going to go searching for it, but the answer was that you appear to be confusing total cost with tuition.

My post says "tuition," not total cost.

[Erud]

That wasn't an answer to my question, just another question. My follow-up was that tuition alone was $7600. I was hoping that you'd address the 25x increase (thus, in the neighborhood of $300 in 1987) and possibly offer some insight as to why such an increase might have occurred, if in fact it did.

[ferch]

I thought good liberals were supposed to be concerned with protecting the rights of others - especially the rights of minorities? Those evil rich people are a minority you know.... they have a right to the money they have earned. People DO have a right to have equal opportunity to make as much money as their skills, knowledge, and work ethic allow. Government and these "poor" people don't actually have a right to OTHER peoples' money. I'm not trying to be rude here, and I'm not trying to attack you Olaf. I genuinely do not understand how Progressives interpret the Constitution to read that the needs/desires of the many outweigh the needs/desires of the few.

Seriously?

All the people have the responsibility to kick in enough out of their excess to make sure everybody has enough to live a healthy life, maybe even a happy life, and at least have equal health care, education and job opportunities.

It costs less in the long run than doing it the ugly way.

I think we all understand that, it's just hard for some people to live it.

"Seriously?"
Being "responsible" is not the same as having a legal right. My mom taught me not to take what isn't mine. There's plenty of verses in the Bible that talk about being responsible, but I'm not sure the Constitution talks about being "responsible" and sacrificing your "excess" to give to your neighbor. Back to the topic of this thread though - I'm of the opinion that the entitlement mentality and today's media are more to blame on school violence than guns.

[NMRMN]

Good article that somewhat addresses this issue, in case you missed it.:

Guns, Mental Illness and Newtown
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323723104578185271857424036.html

[St. Olaf]

Erud, I answered your question shortly after you asked it.

You are confusing tuition cost with total cost.

Tuition was $12 to $15 a credit in 1980. That would be about $400 to $600 per year. What is it now? You do the math.

The increase is due to the program called "New Federalism" initiated by Ronald Reagan in the early 80s.

That program cut Federal tax money that should have come back to the states and started the money famine for state and local governments that caused a multitude of problems with education funding, mental health funding, infrastructure and a plethora of other needs.

We're suffering the consequences.

[grousemaster]

Erud, I answered your question shortly after you asked it.

You are confusing tuition cost with total cost.

Tuition was $12 to $15 a credit in 1980. That would be about $400 to $600 per year. What is it now? You do the math.

The increase is due to the program called "New Federalism" initiated by Ronald Reagan in the early 80s.

That program cut Federal tax money that should have come back to the states and started the money famine for state and local governments that caused a multitude of problems with education funding, mental health funding, infrastructure and a plethora of other needs.

We're suffering the consequences.

Lol!!! Yep, Reagan is to blame for the rising cost of tuition! You heard it here first!!!

I have to ask, where did you learn all this neat stuff?

[St. Olaf]

I thought good liberals were supposed to be concerned with protecting the rights of others - especially the rights of minorities? Those evil rich people are a minority you know.... they have a right to the money they have earned. People DO have a right to have equal opportunity to make as much money as their skills, knowledge, and work ethic allow. Government and these "poor" people don't actually have a right to OTHER peoples' money. I'm not trying to be rude here, and I'm not trying to attack you Olaf. I genuinely do not understand how Progressives interpret the Constitution to read that the needs/desires of the many outweigh the needs/desires of the few.

Seriously?

All the people have the responsibility to kick in enough out of their excess to make sure everybody has enough to live a healthy life, maybe even a happy life, and at least have equal health care, education and job opportunities.

It costs less in the long run than doing it the ugly way.

I think we all understand that, it's just hard for some people to live it.

"Seriously?"
Being "responsible" is not the same as having a legal right. My mom taught me not to take what isn't mine. There's plenty of verses in the Bible that talk about being responsible, but I'm not sure the Constitution talks about being "responsible" and sacrificing your "excess" to give to your neighbor. Back to the topic of this thread though - I'm of the opinion that the entitlement mentality and today's media are more to blame on school violence than guns.

Interesting opinion, but it sounds like wishful blaming.

[NMRMN]

Federal tax money that should have come back to the states and started the money famine for state and local governments that caused a multitude of problems with education funding, mental health funding, infrastructure and a plethora of other needs.

why should federal tax money go to state programs in the first place? Why not decrease the federal tax and increase state taxes that address each states individual needs. Again. Not in the constitution, not a federal mandate.