Gun Debate Overtaken by Budget Fight

[XDM45]

Don't buy into it. The antis are hoping that we'll back off, which we never ever should. We need to keep up the pressure and actually increase it for stronger gun rights.

http://www.congress.org/news/gun-debate ... get-fight/

[LarryP]

We need to be more focused on state actions

[XDM45]

We need to be more focused on state actions

Well, I think we may be able to do more at a local and state level, yes. I also think that if we (MN), CO, and other states win at the state and local level for pro-gun rights, then that will most certainly affect things at the federal level.

I'm curious though about one thing.... the local sheriffs in each state/city that said they wouldn't enforce federal laws which are unconstitutional, such as ones that would violate the 2A; however, what about other laws which are at the federal level which conflict with state laws where something is legal? Such as in marijuana in CA and CO. The feds bust dispensaries al the time, yet pot is legal in those states. Why aren't the sheriff's defending those state laws when it's legal in their state but not at the federal level? Is it because pot isn't specifically a constitutional right?

[sprigfan]

How can a sheriff defend a law against the feds? They have no jurisdiction in federal law. Plus, what could they possibly do, try to arrest federal agents for enforcing federal laws?

[Karl B. Andersen]

How can a sheriff defend a law against the feds? They have no jurisdiction in federal law. Plus, what could they possibly do, try to arrest federal agents for enforcing federal laws?

Really need to read the fine print on those laws where the Sheriffs won't enforce Fed laws. Like Wyoming, for example.
It covers firearms that are manufactured, sold/purchased, and KEPT within the State's borders.
Since the guns never cross the state line, they do NOT fall under Federal interstate commerce laws and can't be restricted by ATFE, and the Sheriff's will not allow the Feds to touch THOSE guns.
I've been wrong before, like 30-40 times a day, but I believe that is what is the crux of those laws.

[NMRMN]

Is it because pot isn't specifically a constitutional right?

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[NMRMN]

Really need to read the fine print on those laws where the Sheriffs won't enforce Fed laws. Like Wyoming, for example.
It covers firearms that are manufactured, sold/purchased, and KEPT within the State's borders.
Since the guns never cross the state line, they do NOT fall under Federal interstate commerce laws and can't be restricted by ATFE, and the Sheriff's will not allow the Feds to touch THOSE guns.

This may be cover legal technicalities that help bolster the legislation, but ultimately it is a 10th amendment and 2nd amendment issue.

[sprigfan]

How can a sheriff defend a law against the feds? They have no jurisdiction in federal law. Plus, what could they possibly do, try to arrest federal agents for enforcing federal laws?

Really need to read the fine print on those laws where the Sheriffs won't enforce Fed laws. Like Wyoming, for example.
It covers firearms that are manufactured, sold/purchased, and KEPT within the State's borders.
Since the guns never cross the state line, they do NOT fall under Federal interstate commerce laws and can't be restricted by ATFE, and the Sheriff's will not allow the Feds to touch THOSE guns.
I've been wrong before, like 30-40 times a day, but I believe that is what is the crux of those laws.

Forgive me and my pea brain, but can you clarify? If no fed law has been broken, why would the feds be after those guns in the first place?

I was also speaking practically. Even if a sheriff wanted to prevent the feds from enforcing a law, by what means specifically could he do so?

[2in2out]

Gun manufacturers group won’t fight background checks

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/gun-advocates-part-ways-nra-background-check-issue-170211612--election.html

Deal elusive on expanding gun background checks
Dems, GOP still apart on expanding gun background checks despite White House involvement

http://news.yahoo.com/deal-elusive-expanding-gun-background-123355751.html


I doubt the budget has taken all of their time. We need to keep up the pressure.

[LePetomane]

They'll screw us one way or another or both.

[Collector1337420]

"Universal background checks" = Registration

We must fight it all.