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Next Hearing?

Postby 870TC on Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:14 am

Whats the next hearing we need to be at?, someone mentioned one coming on Tuesday the 19th???.
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Re: Next Hearing?

Postby BBeckwith on Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:19 am

Tomorrow 10am Public Safety Committee...
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Re: Next Hearing?

Postby 870TC on Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:57 am

Thanks, found it.

10:00 AM
Public Safety Finance and Policy

Chair: Rep. Michael Paymar
Bill(s) Added
Room: 10 State Office Building
Agenda: THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC TESTIMONY.

HF237 (Paymar) Pistol and semiautomatic military-style assault weapon transfer and firearm possession eligibility provisions modified, and criminal penalties provided.
HF790 (Johnson) Conditional release terms clarified.
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Re: Next Hearing?

Postby jshuberg on Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:15 am

There doesn't seem to be much of a call to action on tomorrows hearing. I've gotten no GOCRA emails, and their web site is silent on tomorrows meeting.

Is it that this isn't an important one to go to, and that we should save our vacation days for something more important? Some direction from those leading the fight would be helpful.
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Next Hearing?

Postby connsolo on Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:33 am

Good question. Anyone know? Bueller? Bueller?
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Next Hearing?

Postby BBeckwith on Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:54 am

Email blast just hit my email box


Gun Rights Showdown!

Tomorrow morning, the Minnesota House Public Safety Committee has a choice:

Stampede over your gun rights, or
Reduce crime and protect your gun rights
Help them make the right choice: call them TODAY!



What you can do right this minute:

Call AND email these Minnesota House members TODAY and tell them:

Vote NO on HF237
DEMAND A VOTE, and vote YES on HF1325
Click here to email them all at once

Make the calls:

Representative John Ward (DFL)
651-296-4333
E-mail: rep.john.ward@house.mn
Thank Rep. Ward for his past support of your gun rights and encourage him to resist pressure from metro gun banners.

Representative Shannon Savick (DFL)
651-296-8216
E-mail: rep.shannon.savick@house.mn
Rep. Savick is a rural DFLer who needs to be reminded that her constituents will not tolerate new gun control.

Representative Steve Simon (DFL)
651-296-9889
E-mail: rep.steve.simon@house.mn
Rep. Simon is a smart, principled lawyer. Remind him that the Supreme Court has affirmed the right to keep and bear arms as an individual right, and that stripping due process doesn't make us more free or more safe.

Representative Brian Johnson (R)
651-296-4346
E-mail: rep.brian.johnson@house.mn
Rep. Johnson is new at the legislature this year, and will be under a lot of pressure to cave to gun control. Tell him to stand firm for our rights.

Representative Mark Uglem (R)
651-296-5513
E-mail: rep.mark.uglem@house.mn
Remind Rep. Uglem that the Second Amendment is not about hunting -- it is a fundamental human, civil and Constitutional right, worthy of the strongest protection.

Representative Debra Hilstrom (DFL)
651-296-3709
E-mail: rep.debra.hilstrom@house.mn
Rep. Hilstrom is the chief author of the good bill, HF1325. Thank her for her strong rejection of registration schemes and her leadership on meaningful criminal control.

Representative Tim Kelly (R)
651-296-8635
E-mail: rep.tim.kelly@house.mn
Thank Rep. Kelly for his consistent votes for gun rights.

Representative Andrea Kieffer (R)
651-296-1147
E-mail: rep.andrea.kieffer@house.mn
Rep. Kieffer has been a strong voice in the fight for your rights, and deserves your thanks.

Representative Kathy Lohmer (R)
651-296-4244
E-mail: rep.kathy.lohmer@house.mn
Please thank Rep. Lohmer for her strong support of your rights!

Representative Jim Newberger (R)
651-296-2451
E-mail: rep.jim.newberger@house.mn
Rep. Newberger is a strong supporter of your gun rights. Thank him for staying strong.

Representative Tony Cornish (R) – Republican Lead
651-296-4240
E-mail: rep.tony.cornish@house.mn
Give Rep. Cornish a big THANK YOU for his strong support of your rights!

The Background:

Representative Paymar's Public Safety Committee will hear the completely replaced HF237, a gun control wish list straight from the Chicago-funded gun controllers:







GOOD BILL

BAD BILL



HF1325/SF1359

HF237/SF458

We call it the

Criminal Control Act

Punish Gun Owners Act

Chief Authors

Rep. Hilstrom (DFL)/Sen. Ortman (R)

Rep. Paymar (DFL)/Sen. Latz (DFL)

Co-Authors (House+Senate)

77+22 = 99

8+4 = 12

New Fees

None

$25 annual purchase permit +

$25 per-gun transfer fee

Universal Pistol/Sporting Rifle Registration

None

Every purchase,
even from a private party

Every loan longer than 12 hours

New Delays

None

Delays purchase permit

Issuance up to 30 days

New Purchase Permit

Denial Reasons

None

Chief claims you are dangerous

Improves state/federal
felon records



No

Improves state records of dangerously mentally ill



No

Increases penalties for

felon in possession



No

Helps county prosecutors convict straw purchasers



No

Supported by sheriffs and prosecutors



No

Read The Bill

http://www.gocra.org/pub/HF1323.pdf

http://www.gocra.org/pub/HF237.pdf



Rep. Paymar's Rights-Violating HF237

Universal Registration:

This bill would require universal registration of pistols and sporting rifles, implemented through a "universal" background check, -- twice: Every sale of these guns would have to go through a licensed dealer, who would charge you $25 per transfer. These transfers would still require a permit to purchase, for which the House bill would charge you another $25 annually.
Rights Delayed

HF237 would extend the time that sheriffs and police have to process a purchase permit from five to seven business days, and allow the law enforcement official to fingerprint the applicant and extend the deadline to 30 days. Whenever he feels like it.
Rights Denied

Easier Carry Permit Denials
This bad bill would allow sheriffs the judgement to deny a carry permit on the basis of a subjective "likelihood" that the applicant was dangerous.

More Difficult Carry Permit Appeals
Rep. Paymar's mean-spirited bill outright encourages abusive denials: it removes the sheriffs' obligation to pay an applicant's legal fees when a permit denial is overturned -- a safeguard that has kept sheriffs departments honest, and bogus denials fairly low, for almost 10 years. The Sheriff’s Association has not asked for this unfair reversal of law.

The bill also lowers the sheriffs' standard of proof of danger to self or other others from "clear and convincing evidence" to the mere "preponderance of the evidence." Violating your rights should get harder, not easier!

Due Process Protections Gutted
HF237 would remove legal protections against losing your firearm rights. Currently, before you lose your right to own a firearm, you must be convicted or committed by a court. Under the new bill, any involuntary hospitalization, even overnight, would disqualify you from owning guns indefinitely.

Making The Law Abiding Into Convicts
The bill would set a new, very low standard of proof for conviction of serious gun crimes, using the phrase "knows or has reason to believe" to convict sellers who reports a gun stolen, or who sell a gun to a person who later commits a crime.
More Difficult Civil Rights Restoration
The bad bill increases the difficulty and expense for a person who has paid their debt to society to regain their civil rights.





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Re: Next Hearing?

Postby sansooshooter on Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:34 am

Just sent another round of e mail to the committee.
Lets keep the pressure up. I forward the e mail alerts to my pro gun friends . Hopefully being a force multiplier.
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Re: Next Hearing?

Postby NMRMN on Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:41 am

sansooshooter wrote:Just sent another round of e mail to the committee.
Lets keep the pressure up. I forward the e mail alerts to my pro gun friends . Hopefully being a force multiplier.

Just sent them off as well. Mail merge is your friend ;-)
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Re: Next Hearing?

Postby connsolo on Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:36 pm

All over it. Phone calls help, too.
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Re: Next Hearing?

Postby beenji on Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:54 pm

So when will the house/senate be voting?
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Re: Next Hearing?

Postby connsolo on Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:58 pm

beenji wrote:So when will the house/senate be voting?


It's tomorrow at 10am. Call and write the reps today.
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Re: Next Hearing?

Postby BBeckwith on Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:12 pm

connsolo wrote:
beenji wrote:So when will the house/senate be voting?


It's tomorrow at 10am. Call and write the reps today.


Tomorrow is a Committee hearing that is very important to try and kill the House Bill.

The Senate vote on SF458 has passed committee and been forwarded to the Rules and Administration Committee. No Floor vote has been scheduled.

House bill HF237 needs to make it out of committee before it can be scheduled for a floor vote. Hopefully it dies in committee.
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Re: Next Hearing?

Postby 2in2out on Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:12 pm

Got 'em all. It took me a while, because we were swamped at work today. I hope I wasn't too late.
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Re: Next Hearing?

Postby oldhunter on Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:56 pm

SF458 was introduced on the floor of the Senate today. As far as I can tell by the minutes it was to be sent back to Judicial. I misses watching the floor session today as I was out for coffee. So I don't know exactly what happened. Sen Ingebrigtsen made a motion on the bill but I missed that also.
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Re: Next Hearing?

Postby 45xdacp on Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:58 pm

Just got the E-mail from GOCRA




House Public Safety meeting
tomorrow at 10: Pack the room!

VICTORY GOES TO THOSE WHO SHOW UP

Tomorrow (Tuesday, March 19) at 10 a.m., the House Public Safety Committee will hear and vote of HF237, Rep, Paymar's Punish Gun Owners Act.

We need to show up in large numbers to tell the House members to REJECT the infringing bill and instead hold a vote on Rep. Hilstrom's Criminal Control bill, HF1325.

Please show up as early as possible for good seats, and wear a maroon shirt (or your GOCRA shirt, if you have one!)

The meeting will be held in Room 10 of the State Office Building.
Directions

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