Dayton slams NRA's 'bogus' gun arguments

[The Lance]

There are plenty of liberals who support and believe in the 2nd Ammendment. They are rare but that's an issue with the progressives right now. Personally the issue that's biggest for me is our two party system. We need something better and voting based on a single issue is not how it's supposed to be. But corporate America doesn't want to lose that and true power lies within the fallacy of currency. It's gonna eventually lead to the fall of the United States as every great super power falls after a couple thousand years. Luckily we're not there yet as we've only existed as a nation for less then 300 years. I hope not in my lifetime all the way to our grandchildren.

However the issue from Dayton is he comes from money and could be bought out by anyone.. It's true with most policeman's anyways. I don't even think half the **** they spew or say is something they truly believe. It's all about power and the hard on they get when they have it. More and more being a conservative libertarian is harder because we're seen as the crazies by both sides. They both willingly attack us

[cgrant26]

Yeah, let's continue to make enemies for gun owners and prove that we're all Neanderthals by bashing and namecalling our governor.

That's real bright.

What's good for the goose...

But I do agree that while we need to firmly stand up against attacks, we need to remain cordial and polite and not mold ourselves into what most on the other side keep insisting we are. You don't change many minds with insults and attacks.

[Heffay]

Yeah, let's continue to make enemies for gun owners and prove that we're all Neanderthals by bashing and namecalling our governor.

That's real bright.

What's good for the goose...

So, your defense of that action breaks down to "they started it"? Does that still work past the 3rd grade?

[2in2out]

I'm not exactly thrilled to step into an argument, but would like to take a brief moment to address the original post....

It seems that Dayton is our friend, and has been our friend all along. Pat Kessler had a "reality check" last night on the CCO and the intrepid anchor team asked him why Minnesota can't get anything done about gun control. Seriously... they wanted to know why Minnesota couldn't be more like New York or Colorado.

Pat's response was that in both of those states, the governor had been personally involved in the entire discussion - that the governor pushed for change. Our governor, alas, has not pushed for change, and that's why we can't seem to get anything done in this state.

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2013/03/21/reality-check-the-difficulty-of-passing-gun-restrictions/

That dialog is at the end of the video at the above link. Am I reading too much into it?

[darkwolf45]

I think that is an important piece, but there was much more involved than just the governor taking control of the conversation.

[Thunder71]

Again, I refuse to believe 'Dayton is our friend' when just last year he vetoed a bill that passed by votes of 40-23 in the Senate and 85-47 in the House, despite every effort of GOCRA and Minnesotan's around the state.

For the people? I don't think so... 100% for Dayton.

[2in2out]

Maybe I'm reading too much into the exchange between Kessler and Vascellaro, but they made it sound like Dayton was against doing anything, and that's why the legislation failed to gain ground. I thought that was amusing at best, frustrating and fist-pounding at worst. They seemed to imply that "doing something" meant passing sweeping gun control laws. The implication that gun control is failing because our governor hasn't stepped into the fray took a big gust of air out of my sails.

My previous comments were typed with tongue firmly in cheek, just like when I used the word "bogus" twice in one sentence (because that word is in the title, and I was trying to make a point that the thread had drifted way off topic). Apparently, my sarcasm needs to be more obvious.

[xd ED]

I'm not exactly thrilled to step into an argument, but would like to take a brief moment to address the original post....

It seems that Dayton is our friend, and has been our friend all along. Pat Kessler had a "reality check" last night on the CCO and the intrepid anchor team asked him why Minnesota can't get anything done about gun control. Seriously... they wanted to know why Minnesota couldn't be more like New York or Colorado.

Pat's response was that in both of those states, the governor had been personally involved in the entire discussion - that the governor pushed for change. Our governor, alas, has not pushed for change, and that's why we can't seem to get anything done in this state.

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2013/03/21/reality-check-the-difficulty-of-passing-gun-restrictions/

That dialog is at the end of the video at the above link. Am I reading too much into it?

I know I couldn't find the audio, but I heard the gov reassuring us that nothing in the works would be a threat to gun ownership, that it was paranoia driving the opposition.
While I certainly agree Gov Dayton has not gone off like NY or CO, I don't believe he'll veto anything that comes his way, either.

[damian_mb]

Dayton needs to be back handed by all 2A supporters in MN.