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Re: letter passed on about ammunition

Postby Hoot on Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:12 pm

It's refreshing to hear folks not automatically ingesting whatever comes along. Believe me, in other forums (south of here), that rhetoric has more traction and frankly, it's embarrassing in this day and age of information availability. Thank you all for restoring my faith in Minnesota sensibility.

It's no sin to be led on by someone who wraps their agenda in kinda believable, well crafted, partial truths. The salvation is getting the opinions of others you trust and who have less of an agenda. It's a free country and everyone is welcome to believe what they choose. When they evangelize it, then I get testy.

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Re: letter passed on about ammunition

Postby photogpat on Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:15 pm

I got an email that said CCI's factory in Lewiston, ID had burned down and the EPA wasn't allowing them to rebuild due to lead being an environmental toxin

(P.S. the plant is just fine).
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Re: letter passed on about ammunition

Postby MNGunner on Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:20 pm

photogpat wrote:B.S. The plant is just fine.


Fixed.
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Re: letter passed on about ammunition

Postby captnviper on Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:26 am

That's funny goverment telling corp. what to do. We all know corporations run our politicians.
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Re: letter passed on about ammunition

Postby photogpat on Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:28 am

captnviper wrote:That's funny goverment telling corp. what to do. We all know corporations run our politicians.


It was a fake email - the CCI plant in Idaho is just fine, and the EPA hasn't told them to do anything.

Don't believe everything you read on the Intarwebs.
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Re: letter passed on about ammunition

Postby Holland&Holland on Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:45 am

MNGunner wrote:Any publicly owned company (has shares of stock outstanding) intentionally limiting their profits would open themselves up for lawsuits from investors.
Obama, in spite of possibly looking like the devil, is not hoarding your 22LR.
Once supply catches up with demand, ammo will go on sale.

Edit: Acutally, come to think of it, thanks to Fleet Farm, I have purhcased the following on sale during the past 3 months: .223, 22LR, and I also belive the 5.45x39 and 9mm were on sale, but I am not 101% sure about those two. I think that those sales happened because the sales ads are printed in advance.


I call BS. I read FFs flyer every week and .22 and .223 have not been on sale in the last 3 months. Maybe you found some at one point in stock but it has not been in their flyer.
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Re: letter passed on about ammunition

Postby JohnGageMN on Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:50 am

Hoot wrote:It's refreshing to hear folks not automatically ingesting whatever comes along. Believe me, in other forums (south of here), that rhetoric has more traction and frankly, it's embarrassing in this day and age of information availability. Thank you all for restoring my faith in Minnesota sensibility.

It's no sin to be led on by someone who wraps their agenda in kinda believable, well crafted, partial truths. The salvation is getting the opinions of others you trust and who have less of an agenda. It's a free country and everyone is welcome to believe what they choose. When they evangelize it, then I get testy.

Hoot


Try reading some of the conspiracies people are buying into the the News or Politics section on this board. :roll:
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Re: letter passed on about ammunition

Postby Hoot on Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:20 am

JohnGageMN wrote:Try reading some of the conspiracies people are buying into the the News or Politics section on this board. :roll:


At the risk of sounding narrow minded, I must confess, I try to avoid the opinionated sub-forums on any of the forums I frequent.

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It's hard enough washing the blood out of my mouth after attending the local club monthly meetings.

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Re: letter passed on about ammunition

Postby XDM45 on Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:09 pm

JohnGageMN wrote:
Hoot wrote:It's refreshing to hear folks not automatically ingesting whatever comes along. Believe me, in other forums (south of here), that rhetoric has more traction and frankly, it's embarrassing in this day and age of information availability. Thank you all for restoring my faith in Minnesota sensibility.

It's no sin to be led on by someone who wraps their agenda in kinda believable, well crafted, partial truths. The salvation is getting the opinions of others you trust and who have less of an agenda. It's a free country and everyone is welcome to believe what they choose. When they evangelize it, then I get testy.

Hoot


Try reading some of the conspiracies people are buying into the the News or Politics section on this board. :roll:


There are some pretty far-fetched conspiracy theories out there, but when people talk about some things, like people being experimented on by the US government, there is documented proof of such things such as the Tuskegee Experiment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_s ... experiment - but that is by far not the only, the first, or the last one of its' kind perpetuated by our government. Is it a conspiracy theory when there's proof? Chances are if they did it once, they will do it again (and/or currently are doing so right now). That's just one example, but feel free to 100% trust the government if you choose to, but I don't listen to what people SAY, I watch what they DO. A lot pf people SAY things, but their ACTIONS reveal the truth, and if they DO something once, they will DO it again.

The government does many things both known and unknown, many cover-ups, so there is credence given to some theories. Some parts and indeed some entire stories themselves are pretty far out there, but sometimes aspects/parts of them are true, while others are complete fabrications. Disinformation/misinformation is a great weapon and it can cause a lot of confusion, so you need to look at multiple sources, verify what you can, get evidence when you can, etc.. People didn't believe the stories about the camps either until they saw them for themselves in WWII Germany. Some people knew the truth the whole time, but not everyone did. Some probably said it was crazy talk, conspiracy theories, our government would never do that, impossible, etc.

I don't believe every story, theory in part or in whole, but some parts I do, some parts I don't. I don't think that any story is 100% accurate as it stands, but parts of it are. VERY few people know the majority of things, and no one knows everything, but they all know something, and they aren't talking.
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Re: letter passed on about ammunition

Postby JTapper on Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:25 pm

Also, ATK runs an ammunition plant in Independence, MO, not Salt Lake City, called the Lake City Army Ammunition Plant. CCI/Speer in Lewiston, ID and Federal Cartridge in Anoka, MN have NOT slowed down.
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Re: letter passed on about ammunition

Postby connsolo on Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:35 pm

Man I hopes this is true. Anyone want to go in on an ammo co with me? We'll make a fortune undercutting the competition.
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Re: letter passed on about ammunition

Postby 340PD on Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:33 pm

I agree it sounds like a BS chain letter. With that said, like others, I've have thought about the government doing the exact same thing in this letter. In fact I emailed my thoughts on this to someone just the other day saying that they wouldn't have to ban anything. All they'd have to do is either cut off the supply of ammunition or make ammunition and reloading supplies to expensive to own via special taxes such as those on cigarettes or some type of tax stamp similar to NFA weapons.
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Re: letter passed on about ammunition

Postby Ron Burgundy on Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:39 pm

XDM45 wrote:The government does many things both known and unknown, many cover-ups, so there is credence given to some theories.

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Re: letter passed on about ammunition

Postby samginko on Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:14 pm

BS, this crap is laughable. I so much want to distance myself from the idiots that chain letter this stuff.
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