Is the panic over?

[OldmanFCSA]

TOO BAD NOBODY LIKES QUALITY RELOADS............



SORRY FOR YOU = I'VE GOT PLENTY TO SHOOT.

You only need to look at the equal lack of availability of reloading components to understand just how many people like quality reloads. The last time I shot any commercial ammo aside from rimfire was a couple of years ago, when I received two boxes to test and write up. The problem is, most of the companies who make reloading components also make ammunition. When they can't produce enough reloading components to satisfy their ammunition manufacturing side, they shut off the supply stream for reloaders. Also, the reloading component/ammunition manufacturers caught on to the fact that they were losing market share of their more lucrative ammunition side to those reloaders and just a few years ago, they started ratcheting up the price of those components to make up for it. Forget the excuse of the higher cost of metals. They didn't go up nearly as much as reflected in the higher prices for bullets and brass. Pretty much the same charge what the market will bear, business model.

Hoot

Thanks for helping to turn the thought pattern of this discussion.

I buy ammo when I can afford to do so, although not for past year since buying a home in Wisconsin. Prior to that, I bought hundreds, thousands of rounds, all of different kinds that fit the needs of myself and my family. This has allowed me to shoot whenever I wanted, at least with some cartridges and guns. With my other interests, I reload and have collected gun junk for 40 years, some good, some well not as usable, until this year. I have thousands of primers from the shortage that never was in 1994. Bought 70K of primers in 2007/2008 for other needs, and haven't bought a primer since due to supply on hand, and other reasons.

I reload for fun, have my entire life, taught my children how-to at a very young age, taught them to respect the ammo and the gun, prior to being big enough to even hold a rifle or shotgun. Taught them how to hold a pistol/revolver, how to check to see if loaded without pulling the trigger, how to unload, how to carry to an adult,me, if found at another house, all at an age less than 5. My children are now 21 and 22. Both still shoot, both still reload for fun when home from college, both still enjoy "burning some gunpowder".

In addition to NORMAL cartridges, I started reloading to load other than normal cartridges. 30 & 357 Herrett, 7mm-08modified/7mmInternational when shooting IHMSA, 30-30AckleyImprover, 7mmTCU, 6mm-223, 6mm-222Mag, 25-06AI, 280AI, 7.65Mauser, 7.92(8mm)Mauser (both mausers from resized 30-06 brass), 22K-Hornet, 25Walker, and the 50BMG. All 50MG Match loads must be handloaded to be competitive at 1000 yard match competitions, unless you are rich enough to buy custom loaded rounds for "your rifle" from several manufacturers at elevated prices nearing $7/round at a high quantity. I load my match rounds under $3/round.

I started casting bullets somewhere along the line, really got into it when shooting IHMSA and using against competitors using jacketed bullets or factory rounds. I was able to shoot a 40 with my Ruger Super Blackhawk 44Mag using 320/240 grain cast with gaschecks pushed HARD out of a 10.5" barrel.
I cast, 224, 6mm, 257, 4 types of 308, 4 types at 38/357, 41Mag, 6 types at 430, 451 roundball, and many other forgotten projects.

I enjoy or I don't do!

I believe everyone follows this philosophy with their selected hobbies.

I used to spend upwards of $20K per year racing offroad motoircycles, travelling the National Enduro curcuit with my children. I no longer race (still ride), but my children are very-very fast when they are able to fit riding into their college schedules, Adam 200A, Beka 250B.

Anyway, my reloading, which I still enjoy, which I enjoy teaching others, has allowed me to continue to shoot whenever I wanted, even when money got real tight this year, due to my supplies "hoarded" over last 40 years. I hate the term "hoarder" when applied to me, especially when I'm not selling for huge profits as a way of life. Because I buy when smart to do-so, I have supplies now. If I adjust how much I shoot, I will be able to outlast this crunch. I have enough different types of cartridges to enable switching to another if I run short.

When I reload, I reload for perfection! Whether a pistol or rifle round for just "burning powder" or for serious competition, I know my reloads will compete against anyone's factory reloads, and my reloads reflect my abilities as a handloader and as a person.
I like cleanliness while reloading - many know why I switched to cleaning cases with the SS Pin process, many do not know how I polish my cases after reloading combined with storage techniques that allow quality reloads being kept for more that 30 years.

If others were to be able to meet my reloading requirements, WE would not be afraid or regulated from selling handloads.

Thus my Previous Comments:

TOO BAD NOBODY LIKES QUALITY RELOADS...........

SORRY FOR YOU = I'VE GOT PLENTY TO SHOOT.

[XDM45]

TOO BAD NOBODY LIKES QUALITY RELOADS............



SORRY FOR YOU = I'VE GOT PLENTY TO SHOOT.

You only need to look at the equal lack of availability of reloading components to understand just how many people like quality reloads. The last time I shot any commercial ammo aside from rimfire was a couple of years ago, when I received two boxes to test and write up. The problem is, most of the companies who make reloading components also make ammunition. When they can't produce enough reloading components to satisfy their ammunition manufacturing side, they shut off the supply stream for reloaders. Also, the reloading component/ammunition manufacturers caught on to the fact that they were losing market share of their more lucrative ammunition side to those reloaders and just a few years ago, they started ratcheting up the price of those components to make up for it. Forget the excuse of the higher cost of metals. They didn't go up nearly as much as reflected in the higher prices for bullets and brass. Pretty much the same charge what the market will bear, business model.

Hoot

Thanks for helping to turn the thought pattern of this discussion.

I buy ammo when I can afford to do so, although not for past year since buying a home in Wisconsin. Prior to that, I bought hundreds, thousands of rounds, all of different kinds that fit the needs of myself and my family. This has allowed me to shoot whenever I wanted, at least with some cartridges and guns. With my other interests, I reload and have collected gun junk for 40 years, some good, some well not as usable, until this year. I have thousands of primers from the shortage that never was in 1994. Bought 70K of primers in 2007/2008 for other needs, and haven't bought a primer since due to supply on hand, and other reasons.

I reload for fun, have my entire life, taught my children how-to at a very young age, taught them to respect the ammo and the gun, prior to being big enough to even hold a rifle or shotgun. Taught them how to hold a pistol/revolver, how to check to see if loaded without pulling the trigger, how to unload, how to carry to an adult,me, if found at another house, all at an age less than 5. My children are now 21 and 22. Both still shoot, both still reload for fun when home from college, both still enjoy "burning some gunpowder".

In addition to NORMAL cartridges, I started reloading to load other than normal cartridges. 30 & 357 Herrett, 7mm-08modified/7mmInternational when shooting IHMSA, 30-30AckleyImprover, 7mmTCU, 6mm-223, 6mm-222Mag, 25-06AI, 280AI, 7.65Mauser, 7.92(8mm)Mauser (both mausers from resized 30-06 brass), 22K-Hornet, 25Walker, and the 50BMG. All 50MG Match loads must be handloaded to be competitive at 1000 yard match competitions, unless you are rich enough to buy custom loaded rounds for "your rifle" from several manufacturers at elevated prices nearing $7/round at a high quantity. I load my match rounds under $3/round.

I started casting bullets somewhere along the line, really got into it when shooting IHMSA and using against competitors using jacketed bullets or factory rounds. I was able to shoot a 40 with my Ruger Super Blackhawk 44Mag using 320/240 grain cast with gaschecks pushed HARD out of a 10.5" barrel.
I cast, 224, 6mm, 257, 4 types of 308, 4 types at 38/357, 41Mag, 6 types at 430, 451 roundball, and many other forgotten projects.

I enjoy or I don't do!

I believe everyone follows this philosophy with their selected hobbies.

I used to spend upwards of $20K per year racing offroad motoircycles, travelling the National Enduro curcuit with my children. I no longer race (still ride), but my children are very-very fast when they are able to fit riding into their college schedules, Adam 200A, Beka 250B.

Anyway, my reloading, which I still enjoy, which I enjoy teaching others, has allowed me to continue to shoot whenever I wanted, even when money got real tight this year, due to my supplies "hoarded" over last 40 years. I hate the term "hoarder" when applied to me, especially when I'm not selling for huge profits as a way of life. Because I buy when smart to do-so, I have supplies now. If I adjust how much I shoot, I will be able to outlast this crunch. I have enough different types of cartridges to enable switching to another if I run short.

When I reload, I reload for perfection! Whether a pistol or rifle round for just "burning powder" or for serious competition, I know my reloads will compete against anyone's factory reloads, and my reloads reflect my abilities as a handloader and as a person.
I like cleanliness while reloading - many know why I switched to cleaning cases with the SS Pin process, many do not know how I polish my cases after reloading combined with storage techniques that allow quality reloads being kept for more that 30 years.

If others were to be able to meet my reloading requirements, WE would not be afraid or regulated from selling handloads.

Thus my Previous Comments:

TOO BAD NOBODY LIKES QUALITY RELOADS...........

SORRY FOR YOU = I'VE GOT PLENTY TO SHOOT.

Sounds like you really enjoy it, which is great. Like you, I'm set for ammo too. I don't have tens of thousands of rounds in .45ACP, but I have a few thousand; and in .22LR, I'm more than set. All new ammo, and once prices come down and the panic subsides, I'll buy more than I shoot just as I've always done. I'm sure I don't have as much ammo or as many calibers as you do, and I probably don't shoot as much (1-3x a month, a few hundred rounds each time, never over 600 in any one caliber).

[JohnGageMN]

I guess if I was making a pittance of money per year, unemployed, cheap, really anal, just liked to reload for fun, because I just wanted to do it, or whatever else, sure, I'd reload.

but, I thought you said reloading didn't save money?

Here he goes bragging on all his riches again.
I guess at the fancy school he went to they didn't teach him that it's not polite to flaunt one's money.

[Rip Van Winkle]

A 5lbs jug of RL15 just sold on Gunbroker for $210. While thats still 2x retail it's about 1/2 of what they were going for 2 months ago.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=334643929

[XDM45]

I guess if I was making a pittance of money per year, unemployed, cheap, really anal, just liked to reload for fun, because I just wanted to do it, or whatever else, sure, I'd reload.

but, I thought you said reloading didn't save money?

Here he goes bragging on all his riches again.
I guess at the fancy school he went to they didn't teach him that it's not polite to flaunt one's money.

Ah, you are once again wrong. I never went to any fancy school, as you put it.

What I DID do is get some IT certs and work in a niche' area of IT that pays pretty well, however that alone isn't enough. Anyone can be broke if they spend all of their money and go into debt, that's easy to do because many people have proven it. What's harder, but well worth it, is living frugally under your means by conscious choice, not out of need, but desire.

What I DID do is not have children because not only does Cancer run in my family (and I didn't want to pass it along to a child), I do not desire children, nor the expense that goes along with them. Too many people are the spokesperson for the saying "If you can't feed 'em, don't breed 'em." I'm not a fan of kids, and I'm honest about it, that's all. Of course to many people, saying you don't want or like kids is worse than voting for Obama.

What I DID do is invest, not piss money away on useless crap or spend it unwisely; so no $500 iToy for me, no $6.00 Mocha Latte Frappachino Express Grande En Largea every day, etc. Not because I couldn't ever afford those things, rather because they are a waste of money in my opinion. A lot of people piss money away and wonder why they don't have any. (I did that too in the past, but I learned and stopped.) If people don't have their financial house in order and everything is financially taken care off, no debt, a net worth, and they have extra income, cool, go for it and buy nice things that are extravagant, pure wants, desires, etc; but not many people have that financial solvency and stability...and for those who do, it didn't happen by accident; rather by conscious choices.

I'm not out to impress people or brag. Am I proud of what I've done? You bet I am. Money is a tool like any other which can be used to create or destroy, it can be difficult to obtain or retain if you don't control it. It gives you options that you wouldn't have otherwise. The more money you have, the more options you have, and I like options. It's that simple. I've chosen well in my opinion. I hope everyone chooses well.

[SharpRule]

Panic is definitely not over, still a lot of empty shelves out there.

[XDM45]

Panic is definitely not over, still a lot of empty shelves out there.

True that.... I don't think it's going to be for a while yet. I wish I had a crystal ball and could say when it will be over, but I don't, so I can't. All I can do now is save more, shoot less, and when prices drop, buy a ton of ammo.

[MNGunGuy]

Panic is definitely not over, still a lot of empty shelves out there.

I just watched a BCM lower (new) go for over 750.00 on Gunbroker. I have a feeling it's going to be a while before I can score one at a decent price.

In other more promising news a rather large order from Precision Delta showed up on my doorstep today. A 6 week lead time from order to delivery isn't bad.

[JohnGageMN]

Here he goes bragging on all his riches again.
I guess at the fancy school he went to they didn't teach him that it's not polite to flaunt one's money.

Ah, you are once again wrong. I never went to any fancy school, as you put it.

What I DID do is get some IT certs and work in a niche' area of IT that pays pretty well, however that alone isn't enough. Anyone can be broke if they spend all of their money and go into debt, that's easy to do because many people have proven it. What's harder, but well worth it, is living frugally under your means by conscious choice, not out of need, but desire.

What I DID do is not have children because not only does Cancer run in my family (and I didn't want to pass it along to a child), I do not desire children, nor the expense that goes along with them. Too many people are the spokesperson for the saying "If you can't feed 'em, don't breed 'em." I'm not a fan of kids, and I'm honest about it, that's all. Of course to many people, saying you don't want or like kids is worse than voting for Obama.

What I DID do is invest, not piss money away on useless crap or spend it unwisely; so no $500 iToy for me, no $6.00 Mocha Latte Frappachino Express Grande En Largea every day, etc. Not because I couldn't ever afford those things, rather because they are a waste of money in my opinion. A lot of people piss money away and wonder why they don't have any. (I did that too in the past, but I learned and stopped.) If people don't have their financial house in order and everything is financially taken care off, no debt, a net worth, and they have extra income, cool, go for it and buy nice things that are extravagant, pure wants, desires, etc; but not many people have that financial solvency and stability...and for those who do, it didn't happen by accident; rather by conscious choices.

I'm not out to impress people or brag. Am I proud of what I've done? You bet I am. Money is a tool like any other which can be used to create or destroy, it can be difficult to obtain or retain if you don't control it. It gives you options that you wouldn't have otherwise. The more money you have, the more options you have, and I like options. It's that simple. I've chosen well in my opinion. I hope everyone chooses well.

My point was not that you haven't earned what money you have. You seem to have no problem with constantly flaunting the fact that you can spend hundreds of dollars a month blowing through range ammo and act shocked that many people can't afford to do so. I need no lesson from you in budget management, I've learned my lessons in that department and very rarely buy something that I cannot pay cash for on the spot. My wages are the very definition of the typical middle class American. I don't have a wife or kids, but I do have a mortgage that takes a big bite out of my ass every month.

I suppose if I abandoned everything else I enjoy doing in life I could drop fat stacks on ammo every week, but for me life wouldn't be much worth living without spending time with my friends and family, putting 10,000 miles a year on my bike with my club brothers, playing some golf, and yes, going to the range. I'm certainly not saying you shouldn't be proud of your professional accomplishments, and enjoy their fruits. I'm proud of mine too, even if I don't have a fancy degree or talk about them on web forums daily.

While you were getting your IT certs I was learning how to properly execute an aggressive interior fire attack, manage a cardiac arrest, pump an engine with multiple lines, and drop in an IV in the back of an ambulance going 70 mph. I've helped save people's lives, dozens of them in fact. I don't brag it up with most people because 1. there are many, many other people who have done the same, some on this very forum, and 2. the way I was raised and trained it is frowned upon to do so. I don't eat smoke anymore, these days I provide training and support for others who do. Now, maybe all of that makes me a sucker because I didn't go into the field that could make me the most money. Maybe I should have gone into IT work so I could have more money to go shooting. I choose to look instead at the fact that I've experienced things in my life that most people never will, and some of those things are priceless.

My point is simply this, when you continuously talk about how it's no big deal to buy all of this ammo and you don't understand why everyone can't afford to spend $500 on this or that, you come off like an arrogant jerk flaunting your cash. Most people around here have worked hard for what they have, and intentionally or not your words are an attempt at belittling those who didn't make the same choices as you, or maybe didn't even have the same options. In the real world, and even the internet world, that kind of braggadocio isn't going to gain you friends or respect. It makes you look like an out of touch ass who can't see past the tip of his own nose.

But hey, what do I know? I'm just a stupid hose-jockey. At least I was never a truckie, those guys are REAL idiots. (Inside joke for any other lurking leatherheads.)

*********************
In an effort to keep this on topic, the panic will be over when I can walk into Fleet Farm when I'm headed there for bulk circus peanuts and also pick up bulk 5.56 FMJ without having to camp out and wait for a truck to get unloaded.

[XDM45]

Here he goes bragging on all his riches again.
I guess at the fancy school he went to they didn't teach him that it's not polite to flaunt one's money.

Ah, you are once again wrong. I never went to any fancy school, as you put it.

What I DID do is get some IT certs and work in a niche' area of IT that pays pretty well, however that alone isn't enough. Anyone can be broke if they spend all of their money and go into debt, that's easy to do because many people have proven it. What's harder, but well worth it, is living frugally under your means by conscious choice, not out of need, but desire.

What I DID do is not have children because not only does Cancer run in my family (and I didn't want to pass it along to a child), I do not desire children, nor the expense that goes along with them. Too many people are the spokesperson for the saying "If you can't feed 'em, don't breed 'em." I'm not a fan of kids, and I'm honest about it, that's all. Of course to many people, saying you don't want or like kids is worse than voting for Obama.

What I DID do is invest, not piss money away on useless crap or spend it unwisely; so no $500 iToy for me, no $6.00 Mocha Latte Frappachino Express Grande En Largea every day, etc. Not because I couldn't ever afford those things, rather because they are a waste of money in my opinion. A lot of people piss money away and wonder why they don't have any. (I did that too in the past, but I learned and stopped.) If people don't have their financial house in order and everything is financially taken care off, no debt, a net worth, and they have extra income, cool, go for it and buy nice things that are extravagant, pure wants, desires, etc; but not many people have that financial solvency and stability...and for those who do, it didn't happen by accident; rather by conscious choices.

I'm not out to impress people or brag. Am I proud of what I've done? You bet I am. Money is a tool like any other which can be used to create or destroy, it can be difficult to obtain or retain if you don't control it. It gives you options that you wouldn't have otherwise. The more money you have, the more options you have, and I like options. It's that simple. I've chosen well in my opinion. I hope everyone chooses well.

My point was not that you haven't earned what money you have. You seem to have no problem with constantly flaunting the fact that you can spend hundreds of dollars a month blowing through range ammo and act shocked that many people can't afford to do so. I need no lesson from you in budget management, I've learned my lessons in that department and very rarely buy something that I cannot pay cash for on the spot. My wages are the very definition of the typical middle class American. I don't have a wife or kids, but I do have a mortgage that takes a big bite out of my ass every month.

I suppose if I abandoned everything else I enjoy doing in life I could drop fat stacks on ammo every week, but for me life wouldn't be much worth living without spending time with my friends and family, putting 10,000 miles a year on my bike with my club brothers, playing some golf, and yes, going to the range. I'm certainly not saying you shouldn't be proud of your professional accomplishments, and enjoy their fruits. I'm proud of mine too, even if I don't have a fancy degree or talk about them on web forums daily.

While you were getting your IT certs I was learning how to properly execute an aggressive interior fire attack, manage a cardiac arrest, pump an engine with multiple lines, and drop in an IV in the back of an ambulance going 70 mph. I've helped save people's lives, dozens of them in fact. I don't brag it up with most people because 1. there are many, many other people who have done the same, some on this very forum, and 2. the way I was raised and trained it is frowned upon to do so. I don't eat smoke anymore, these days I provide training and support for others who do. Now, maybe all of that makes me a sucker because I didn't go into the field that could make me the most money. Maybe I should have gone into IT work so I could have more money to go shooting. I choose to look instead at the fact that I've experienced things in my life that most people never will, and some of those things are priceless.

My point is simply this, when you continuously talk about how it's no big deal to buy all of this ammo and you don't understand why everyone can't afford to spend $500 on this or that, you come off like an arrogant jerk flaunting your cash. Most people around here have worked hard for what they have, and intentionally or not your words are an attempt at belittling those who didn't make the same choices as you, or maybe didn't even have the same options. In the real world, and even the internet world, that kind of braggadocio isn't going to gain you friends or respect. It makes you look like an out of touch ass who can't see past the tip of his own nose.

But hey, what do I know? I'm just a stupid hose-jockey. At least I was never a truckie, those guys are REAL idiots. (Inside joke for any other lurking leatherheads.)

*********************
In an effort to keep this on topic, the panic will be over when I can walk into Fleet Farm when I'm headed there for bulk circus peanuts and also pick up bulk 5.56 FMJ without having to camp out and wait for a truck to get unloaded.

Ok man. Fair enough. I don't want to come off as a jerk or some braggart, because honestly, I'm neither. Some on this board have met me in person and haven't had any issues. I honestly think we're probably more alike in many ways than not, but I'm sure you'll disagree with that, which is fine. I know one way we're alike, we speak our mind and don't pull any punches; caveat being that I'll say that you have the tact part down better than I do. I tend to be less tactful (although I do use it), I've always had the mindset of "if you don't want the honest answer, don't ask the question" and have always voiced my opinions even if it made me unpopular to do so. I'm fiercely independent by nature, if you follow the Myers-Briggs Personality Chart, I'm an INTJ with a Keirsey Mastermind Temperament http://www.keirsey.com/4temps/mastermind.asp which explains a lot about who I am. The INTJ's axiom is "Is it functional? Does it work?" If I were a programmer, I'd take 30,000 lines of code and get it down to 3,000. We cut through the b.s. and that can come across as raw at times, so, in short, I'm sorry if I offended you or anyone else.

Like yourself, I too choose to look instead at the fact that I've experienced things in my life that most people never will, and some of those things are priceless, as you say; and, I too value family and friends over things and money as well. In fact, I'm actually limited at my job because in order to advance into a new position, I'd need to travel, and I don't want to do that for any amount of money. I've been there, done that. While cash is nice, as are IT certs; none of that compares to living life on my own terms.

As for your saving lives, thank you for that. Your work is far more important that mine. I've often said that the wrong people are over-paid (professional athletes, musicians, etc) when it should be the people who may not come home from work every day, those who save the lives of others, like EMTs, Fire, Police, all EMS staffers, Soldiers, etc. For me a bad day is not the same for you or them having a bad day. No one dies on my bad days.

I'm not lighting cigars with $100 bills, but to me what consists of a small amount of money is different than it is for someone else. There are people out there to whom $1,000,000 is change they donate every year, so I can relate that to them what is small, is large to me, and vice versa. Perhaps I need to be more sensitive in that regard.

[Mn01r6]

Ok man. Fair enough. I don't want to come off as a jerk or some braggart, because honestly, I'm neither.

gnothi seauton...look back over your posts in this thread and elsewhere and get to know yourself a little better. You need to realize that bragging about owning a bajillion rounds of .22lr - even bought at pre-hoarding prices - is more than most people can afford to devote to their entire shooting hobby in the two years you have owned guns.

And this is coming from the guy who said he still shoots 9mm like a fat kid eats cake.

[XDM45]

gnothi seauton...look back over your posts in this thread and elsewhere and get to know yourself a little better.

Oh I know myself well thanks. That's not the issue at all. The issue is in using tact more, which is something I'm well aware that I don't use very well. I just need to care more about using it, and use it, that's all. I believe I covered that in my post: "I'll say that you have the tact part down better than I do. I tend to be less tactful (although I do use it), I've always had the mindset of "if you don't want the honest answer, don't ask the question" and have always voiced my opinions even if it made me unpopular to do so.", so I covered that already. Why didn't you mention it?

You need to realize that bragging about owning a bajillion rounds of .22lr - even bought at pre-hoarding prices - is more than most people can afford to devote to their entire shooting hobby in the two years you have owned guns.

Again, not intending to brag, and as I covered already in my previous post as well, which you also failed to include here: "I'm not lighting cigars with $100 bills, but to me what consists of a small amount of money is different than it is for someone else. There are people out there to whom $1,000,000 is change they donate every year, so I can relate that to them what is small, is large to me, and vice versa. Perhaps I need to be more sensitive in that regard." by the way, at pre-panic prices, Federal 550 Bulk Packs were $21.00 at WalMart x 45 boxes of 550 rounds each = 24,750 rounds for $945.00. Seriously, some of you have spent more than that on a SINGLE gun. Don't act like I'm saying it's $100,000 and I poop gold bars. Unlike that ammo, those guns will last you a heck of a lot longer. Just look at the USED prices here, and imagine what those people spent for them NEW. viewforum.php?f=49

And this is coming from the guy who said he still shoots 9mm like a fat kid eats cake.

Let them eat cake!!!! (or if they are trying to steal your cake, feed them 9mm) --- (ok, come on, that was funny, admit it.)

Now, the panic isn't over me, it's over ammo, so back on track we go.............

[TommyMN]

The more xdm posts. The more people need a puke bucket.

Lets get back on topic like sighting in my shield for 400 yards.

[bensdad]

Federal 550 Bulk Packs were $21.00 at WalMart x 45 boxes of 550 rounds each = 24,750 rounds for $945.00.

When I started buying an extra box of Fed. Bulk every time I went into a Walmart, it was 9.97/box. I remember getting quite a few of them at both 11.97 and 15.97. So I don't think either you nor I paid $945 for the .22 ammo we have saved up. There are currently about 16,000 rds of bulk in my man-cave. Maybe have another 1,000-1,500 in various small boxes and CCI plastic containers. If this panic doesn't end soon, my summer is gonna revolve around gardening and nagging my wife for relations.

And XDM45, I've never noticed anything uncool about any of your posts. Some folks act... the rest are forced to re-act. Being the former is actually a good thing.

[XDM45]

Federal 550 Bulk Packs were $21.00 at WalMart x 45 boxes of 550 rounds each = 24,750 rounds for $945.00.

When I started buying an extra box of Fed. Bulk every time I went into a Walmart, it was 9.97/box. I remember getting quite a few of them at both 11.97 and 15.97. So I don't think either you nor I paid $945 for the .22 ammo we have saved up. There are currently about 16,000 rds of bulk in my man-cave. Maybe have another 1,000-1,500 in various small boxes and CCI plastic containers. If this panic doesn't end soon, my summer is gonna revolve around gardening and nagging my wife for relations.

And XDM45, I've never noticed anything uncool about any of your posts. Some folks act... the rest are forced to re-act. Being the former is actually a good thing.

Thanks bensdad. It may have been $9.97, I swear it was more though. I've been stockpiling since Feb 2011. I know years ago, it was 1 cent a round I believe. You may have had yours longer than I have mine. I've paid different prices for different amounts. I think 100 rounds CCI .22LR Mini Mags were $6.97.