NY Confiscating Guns & Revoking Permits of Residents on Meds

[Glenn_S]

Not if they are stealth choppers...See them?

[NMRMN]

WIVB 4 reports: http://www.wivb.com/dpp/news/erie/gun-p ... medication

Bob Owens comments:

I’d suggest it is time for New Yorkers to take some time to pray this evening, and decide how much more tyranny they are willing to take.

[NMRMN]

Over at NYfirearms.com: http://www.nyfirearms.com/forums/laws-p ... post475044

Breaking News

I'm sorry that I haven't been around today. We have been inundated with media contacts and telephone calls.

Apparently, we have a New York State Police sergeant rooting around in permit holders' private information.

Client X, whose name will be released soon, indeed had his pistol license suspended at the whim of a New York State Police Officer without a hearing before a judge, a clear violation of the client's procedural due process rights.

Every New York State permit holder should be on red alert for potential privacy violations. The New York State Police are all too happy to confiscate your guns.

[NMRMN]

Holy cow, have we stirred up a firestorm! You see, this was supposed to be one of those internet rumors...

Listen to the second radio interview, with Jim and Max (Jim's son and law student) Tresmond on the Baurle Show:

http://www.wben.com/topic/play_window.p ... Id=6322127

[harryset]

Should this supposed rumor, prove to be true, and NY is in fact confiscating guns of people using anti-depressants.

Here is the side effects of Lyrica, a drug used for pain from fibromyalgia and diabetes:

LYRICA is not for everyone. LYRICA may cause serious, even life threatening, allergic reactions. Stop taking LYRICA and call your doctor right away if you have any signs of a serious allergic reaction. Some signs are swelling of your face, mouth, lips, gums, tongue, throat or neck, or if you have any trouble breathing, or have a rash, hives or blisters.

Drugs used to treat seizures increase the risk of suicidal thoughts or behavior. LYRICA may cause suicidal thoughts or actions in a very small number of people, about 1 in 500. Patients, family members or caregivers should call the doctor right away if they notice suicidal thoughts or actions, thoughts of self harm, or any unusual changes in mood or behavior. These changes may include new or worsening depression, anxiety, restlessness, trouble sleeping, panic attacks, anger, irritability, agitation, aggression, dangerous impulses or violence, or extreme increases in activity or talking. If you have suicidal thoughts or actions, do not stop LYRICA without first talking to your doctor.

LYRICA may cause swelling of your hands, legs and feet, which can be serious for people with heart problems. LYRICA may cause dizziness and sleepiness. You should not drive or work with machines until you know how LYRICA affects you. Also, tell your doctor right away about muscle pain or problems along with feeling sick and feverish, or any changes in your eyesight including blurry vision, or if you have any kidney problems or get dialysis.

Some of the most common side effects of LYRICA are dizziness, blurry vision, weight gain, sleepiness, trouble concentrating, swelling of your hands and feet, dry mouth, and feeling “high.” If you have diabetes, tell your doctor about any skin sores.

You may have a higher chance for swelling and hives if you are also taking angiotensin converting enzyme (ACE) inhibitors so tell your doctor if you are taking these medications. You may have a higher chance of swelling of your hands or feet or gaining weight if you are also taking certain diabetes medicines. Do not drink alcohol while on LYRICA. You may have a higher chance for dizziness and sleepiness if you take LYRICA with alcohol, narcotic pain medicines, or medicines for anxiety.

Before you start LYRICA, tell your doctor if you are planning to father a child, or if you are pregnant, plan to become pregnant, or are
breast-feeding. If you have had a drug or alcohol problem, you may be more likely to misuse LYRICA.

In studies, a specific type of blood vessel tumor was seen in mice, but not in rats. The meaning of these findings in humans is not known.

Do not stop taking LYRICA without talking to your doctor. If you stop suddenly you may have headaches, nausea, diarrhea, trouble sleeping, increased sweating, or you may feel anxious. If you have epilepsy, you may have seizures more often.

Bring out the helicopters, but there are numerous meds out there with similar side effects. More than enough excuse to make a user of said medication to lose their 2A rights.

[NMRMN]

You'll notice in the second interview they could not give any detailed information on the drugs that might be in question, other than stating that their clients are/were on 'anti-anxiety' medication.

This story is no longer a "rumor". Of course, there are multiple sides to a legal case. The police involved could say that it was actually some other reason they revoked his permit and confiscated his guns... But that would not be the reason listed in the original letter, according to the defendant's attorney.
Continued here: NY Police wrongly pulled man's gun permit: viewtopic.php?f=55&t=42280

[bensdad]

NMRMN, you were on this from the get-go. Well done sir.

[Mn01r6]

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He got his guns back, they had the wrong guy: http://www.wkbw.com/news/local/Judge-Or ... 20671.html

NEW YORK STATE POLICE
Joseph A. D'Amico
Superintendent
PRESS RELEASE
The SAFE Act requires mental health professionals to file notification when a medical professional determines that an individual he or she is treating is at risk to themselves or others. Medical prescription records are strictly private and not shared with the state, and no firearm license would ever be revoked for an anti-anxiety prescription.
The notification forwarded to the Erie County Clerk's Office required additional follow-up before a positive identification of a person at risk to themselves or others became final. The State Police was very clear in its letter to the Clerk's Office regarding the need for due diligence and the need for a positive identification by the County before they removed any weapon.
The final determination on whether to revoke or suspend a pistol permit license rests solely with the County and the licensing officials. The State Police has no authority to suspend or revoke a pistol permit in these circumstances.