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Stand your ground? Pshaw, that ain't jack!

Postby Heffay on Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:00 pm

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_ ... 581027.php

During closing arguments Tuesday, Gilbert's defense team conceded the shooting did occur but said the intent wasn't to kill. Gilbert's actions were justified, they argued, because he was trying to retrieve stolen property: the $150 he paid Frago. It became theft when she refused to have sex with him or give the money back, they said.

Gilbert testified earlier Tuesday that he had found Frago's escort ad on Craigslist and believed sex was included in her $150 fee. But instead, Frago walked around his apartment and after about 20 minutes left, saying she had to give the money to her driver, he said.


The Texas law that allows people to use deadly force to recover property during a nighttime theft was put in place for “law-abiding” citizens, prosecutors Matt Lovell and Jessica Schulze countered. It's not intended for someone trying to force another person into an illegal act such as prostitution, they argued.


According to case law now, it's ok to shoot a hooker at night if she doesn't put out after you paid her. I'm assuming this also applies if the sex isn't good enough as well and you ask for a refund.

I also like that he didn't intend to kill her when he shot her in the neck. I'm sure it was just a warning neck-shot.
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Re: Stand your ground? Pshaw, that ain't jack!

Postby Thunder71 on Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:06 pm

Heffay wrote:http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Jury-acquits-escort-shooter-4581027.php

During closing arguments Tuesday, Gilbert's defense team conceded the shooting did occur but said the intent wasn't to kill. Gilbert's actions were justified, they argued, because he was trying to retrieve stolen property: the $150 he paid Frago. It became theft when she refused to have sex with him or give the money back, they said.

Gilbert testified earlier Tuesday that he had found Frago's escort ad on Craigslist and believed sex was included in her $150 fee. But instead, Frago walked around his apartment and after about 20 minutes left, saying she had to give the money to her driver, he said.


The Texas law that allows people to use deadly force to recover property during a nighttime theft was put in place for “law-abiding” citizens, prosecutors Matt Lovell and Jessica Schulze countered. It's not intended for someone trying to force another person into an illegal act such as prostitution, they argued.


According to case law now, it's ok to shoot a hooker at night if she doesn't put out after you paid her. I'm assuming this also applies if the sex isn't good enough as well and you ask for a refund.

I also like that he didn't intend to kill her when he shot her in the neck. I'm sure it was just a warning neck-shot.


I'm sure he was aiming for her knees.
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Postby Heffay on Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:16 pm

Thunder71 wrote:I'm sure he was aiming for her knees.


My guess is that the prosecution tanked the case on purpose. Nobody wants the fun of killing a hooker ruined for everyone else.
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Postby Texastransplant on Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:27 pm

Pretty sure I know Section 30:06 of the Texas Penal Code dealing with justifiable homicide, and I can't for the life of me figure this one. Oh, and I'm sure it's gonna make the anti's in Austin howl in rage.

Yeah, I got nothing.
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Postby Texastransplant on Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:19 pm

Ridiculously cold winter, democrats everywhere, and you can't even shoot a hooker. Why the hell did I ever move here from Texas.
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Postby XDM45 on Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:46 pm

Texastransplant wrote:Ridiculously cold winter, democrats everywhere, and you can't even shoot a hooker. Why the hell did I ever move here from Texas.


..but hey, you can OC here, and ya'all can't do THAT in Texas.
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Postby MasonK on Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:21 pm

XDM45 wrote:
Texastransplant wrote:Ridiculously cold winter, democrats everywhere, and you can't even shoot a hooker. Why the hell did I ever move here from Texas.


..but hey, you can OC here, and ya'all can't do THAT in Texas.


Nor can you carry a gun in an establishment which derives more than 51% of its income from alcohol in TX.

I always thought their laws would be more liberal than MN carry laws.
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Postby XDM45 on Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:37 pm

MasonK wrote:
XDM45 wrote:
Texastransplant wrote:Ridiculously cold winter, democrats everywhere, and you can't even shoot a hooker. Why the hell did I ever move here from Texas.


..but hey, you can OC here, and ya'all can't do THAT in Texas.


Nor can you carry a gun in an establishment which derives more than 51% of its income from alcohol in TX.

I always thought their laws would be more liberal than MN carry laws.


Whodathunkit?
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Stand your ground? Pshaw, that ain't jack!

Postby DoxaPar on Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:56 pm

You keep calling her a hooker. Clearly she wasn't. O.o
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Postby Heffay on Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:17 pm

DoxaPar wrote:You keep calling her a hooker. Clearly she wasn't. O.o


Sterling Archer: Oh my god, you killed a hooker!
Cyril Figgis: Callgirl! She was a callgirl!
Sterling Archer: No Cyril, when they're dead, they're just hookers!
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Stand your ground? Pshaw, that ain't jack!

Postby DoxaPar on Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:22 pm

Don't you actually have to actually "do the deed" to be a hooker? I think she was just clever.
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Postby XDM45 on Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:45 pm

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Not all hookers are bad :)
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Postby Texastransplant on Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:14 pm

MasonK wrote:
XDM45 wrote:
Texastransplant wrote:Ridiculously cold winter, democrats everywhere, and you can't even shoot a hooker. Why the hell did I ever move here from Texas.


..but hey, you can OC here, and ya'all can't do THAT in Texas.


Nor can you carry a gun in an establishment which derives more than 51% of its income from alcohol in TX.

I always thought their laws would be more liberal than MN carry laws.


Yeah, ain't gonna lie. I like the carry laws up here more.
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Postby XDM45 on Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:32 pm

Texastransplant wrote:Yeah, ain't gonna lie. I like the carry laws up here more.


+1 on that. Thank you GOCRA.
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Postby Texastransplant on Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:38 pm

XDM45 wrote:
Texastransplant wrote:Yeah, ain't gonna lie. I like the carry laws up here more.


+1 on that. Thank you GOCRA.


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