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Re: Holy Bullet Setback, Batman!

Postby TH3180 on Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:15 pm

Wow clever.
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Re: Holy Bullet Setback, Batman!

Postby XDM45 on Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:18 pm

TH3180 wrote:Wow clever.


True on both counts... both clever and true. However, even though there's no setback in fingerprint readers, you can't compare fingerprint readers to guns, because it's apples to oranges man. Your goal was basically a cheapshot at me for not carrying one in the chamber, so in that, you WIN!! Yeah!! Here's a cookie. Happy now? You successfully made a cheapshot. How effen cool is that man? YOU are the newest hero on the Interwebz!!
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Re: Holy Bullet Setback, Batman!

Postby TH3180 on Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:22 pm

XDM45 wrote:
TH3180 wrote:Wow clever.


True on both counts... both clever and true. However, even though there's no setback in fingerprint readers, you can't compare fingerprint readers to guns, because it's apples to oranges man. Your goal was basically a cheapshot at me for not carrying one in the chamber, so in that, you WIN!! Yeah!! Here's a cookie. Happy now? You successfully made a cheapshot. How effen cool is that man? YOU are the newest hero on the Interwebz!!

Actually I posted how I feel about carrying without one in the chamber. Then I asked for info on a potential problem. You became a smart ass and posted your clever google link that brought me to a bunch of threads from 2010 and before. So I guess you won. Well done.
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Re: Holy Bullet Setback, Batman!

Postby XDM45 on Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:24 pm

TH3180 wrote:
XDM45 wrote:
TH3180 wrote:Wow clever.


True on both counts... both clever and true. However, even though there's no setback in fingerprint readers, you can't compare fingerprint readers to guns, because it's apples to oranges man. Your goal was basically a cheapshot at me for not carrying one in the chamber, so in that, you WIN!! Yeah!! Here's a cookie. Happy now? You successfully made a cheapshot. How effen cool is that man? YOU are the newest hero on the Interwebz!!

Actually I posted how I feel about carrying without one in the chamber. Then I asked for info on a potential problem. You became a smart ass and posted your clever google link that brought me to a bunch of threads from 2010 and before. So I guess you won. Well done.


Now that's not clever at all. Besides, you already ate the cookie. Aside from that, this entire thread started about.45ACP setback.
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Re: Holy Bullet Setback, Batman!

Postby TH3180 on Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:27 pm

Wasn't trying to be clever just stating the facts.
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Re: Holy Bullet Setback, Batman!

Postby XDM45 on Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:28 pm

TH3180 wrote:Wasn't trying to be clever just stating the facts.


Same here. The fact is that .45ACP has some setback issues, and thus why I don't carry one in the chamber.
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Holy Bullet Setback, Batman!

Postby jshuberg on Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:35 pm

I'm in no position to cast judgement on how you want to carry, but that just seems nuts to me. How much set back are we talking about? You should be able rechamber the same round a dozen times minimally before any significant setback occurs. You may have an issue with your pistol and/or ammo selection.

Before I would ever consider carrying with an empty chamber as a solution for setback, I'd have my pistol looked at to see if something is wrong, try different ammo, or rotate the round I chamber through my carry mags every time I reload.

Lets say it takes chambering the same round 15 times on average before setback becomes something to worry about. Lets also say you have three 8 round carry mags. That's 25 rounds you can rotate through the chamber. That's 375 chamberings before you would want to replace your 25 rounds of carry ammo. Even if you dryfire or shoot every single day, you should still be able to go more than a year before shooting and replacing your carry ammo, something that's a good idea to do annually anyway.

Again, it's none of my business how you decide to carry, but considering the fact that you open carry, it might be a good idea to reconsider carrying your firearm in a ready state. Just saying.
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Re: Holy Bullet Setback, Batman!

Postby TH3180 on Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:09 pm

XDM45 wrote:
TH3180 wrote:Wasn't trying to be clever just stating the facts.


Same here. The fact is that .45ACP has some setback issues, and thus why I don't carry one in the chamber.

No you were trying to bait me into a pissing contest like you do all the time to people on this forum. Go back and read what you wrote. Oh and I don't take cookies from strangers that open carry the equivalent to a hammer.
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Re: Holy Bullet Setback, Batman!

Postby PRS on Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:11 pm

It's my understanding that a .45 will get setback if left in the chamber because that big 230 grain bullet is so heavy... It's gravity! And I wouldn't carry +1 unless I had a manual safety in addition to the trigger safety and grip safety. Israili draw is just as fast.
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Re: Holy Bullet Setback, Batman!

Postby FJ540 on Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:08 am

PRS wrote:It's my understanding that a .45 will get setback if left in the chamber because that big 230 grain bullet is so heavy... It's gravity! And I wouldn't carry +1 unless I had a manual safety in addition to the trigger safety and grip safety. Israili draw is just as fast.


You carry muzzle up? :lol:

Tim's .40's getting hot from set back make me nervous. My .45's getting hot from not enough case capacity is actually lower on my imminent dangers list than being eaten alive by sasquatch.
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Re: Holy Bullet Setback, Batman!

Postby PRS on Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:13 am

Tim's gamer loads are so sub minor they almost suppress themselves. The bullet could be flush with the case and he wouldn't make major.
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Re: Holy Bullet Setback, Batman!

Postby FJ540 on Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:17 am

I don't know know how he loads them. I was figuring they'd be full power. :oops:
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Re: Holy Bullet Setback, Batman!

Postby PRS on Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:59 am

Nope... Cause glocks blow up.... Read it on the internet.
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Re: Holy Bullet Setback, Batman!

Postby Erud on Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:26 am

PRS wrote:Israili draw is just as fast.


Agreed. As long as you've gone through the extensive training provided by the Mossad, you'll be just fine.

Otherwise, yeah - the hammer thing.
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Re: Holy Bullet Setback, Batman!

Postby TTS on Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:41 am

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