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The man speaks his truth about Glocks and I happen to agree

Postby XDM45 on Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:59 am

The man speaks his truth about Glocks...and I happen to agree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_SFZaZ8v8g
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Postby PHATSPEED7x on Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:09 pm

I knew this was going to be Yankee Marshall. Lol

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Postby grousemaster on Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:17 pm

XD's are cheaper, and more easily replaceable, same with an M&P.....interesting he relies on a Glock to protect his life on a daily basis. I must ask XDm45, what is your experience with the Glock line of pistols? I can assume you've run a course or two with one? OR at the very minimum fired a couple?

The idea that a Kia is a superior vehicle to a Honda Civic is laughable....even from a clown like this. It's the cherry on top!
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Re: The man speaks his truth about Glocks and I happen to agree

Postby MNGunGuy on Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:22 pm

XDM45 wrote:The man speaks his truth about Glocks...and I happen to agree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_SFZaZ8v8g

What's ironic is he says his problem isn't with Glocks but with Glock owners thinking they are the best gun ever made. If one was to go back and read your posts it's pretty clear the person he's talking about is you.
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Re: The man speaks his truth about Glocks and I happen to agree

Postby Ron Burgundy on Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:04 pm

I love Glocks.
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Re: The man speaks his truth about Glocks and I happen to agree

Postby brad3579 on Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:23 pm

Ron Burgundy wrote:I love Glocks.

Me too
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Re: The man speaks his truth about Glocks and I happen to agree

Postby Hmac on Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:53 pm

Love my Glock.

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Re: The man speaks his truth about Glocks and I happen to agree

Postby XDM45 on Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:49 pm

MNGunGuy wrote:
XDM45 wrote:The man speaks his truth about Glocks...and I happen to agree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_SFZaZ8v8g

What's ironic is he says his problem isn't with Glocks but with Glock owners thinking they are the best gun ever made. If one was to go back and read your posts it's pretty clear the person he's talking about is you.


Not quite. Do I think the XD series is the best thing since sliced bread or the right gun for everyone? Nah. I know what I like, what works for me, but I know it doesn't work for everyone. The XD/XDM/XDS/etc isn't the only gun out there and no one tool does everything.

Who he's talking about are the people that suck hard on the d-k of Glock. "What? You need a pizza cutter? Well, a Glock can do that! You need a new car? Well, get a Glock!" etc....and that isn't me.
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Postby XDM45 on Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:59 pm

grousemaster wrote:XD's are cheaper, and more easily replaceable, same with an M&P.....interesting he relies on a Glock to protect his life on a daily basis. I must ask XDm45, what is your experience with the Glock line of pistols? I can assume you've run a course or two with one? OR at the very minimum fired a couple?

The idea that a Kia is a superior vehicle to a Honda Civic is laughable....even from a clown like this. It's the cherry on top!


I've fired quite a few Glocks. I like the snap they have in them when they fire, but the overall feel of the gun turns me off. You know how they say first impressions matter and you can't ever get a second one? I place a lot of importance on that when it comes to guns. If I hold a gun for the first time and it doesn't feel right, I don't care how good of quality it is, how it fires, chances are, it's not a good gun for me and I'm not a good owner for it. Glocks and I are like that. We're just no good for each other. Technically, mechanically, they may be the best dang gun ever made, but if it doesn't fit like a glove, forget it. Guns are like that for me, so are musical instruments, jewelry, and a few other things as well. I don't want to have to learn to like it or to tolerate it, I want it to be right for each other from the start.

When I picked out my XDm, I held several of them before finding the one I liked. For something as personal as a gun, musical instrument, jeweler, etc, I place more importance on feel and vibe than I do on quality. Of course quality and workmanship matter too and are very important, but what good is a high-quality something you won't use or feel right with?

Technically, I think Glocks are great guns..... just not great guns for me. they are built well, LEOs all over use them, simple, easy to tear down, re-assemble, get parts for, etc....all great things.... but that vibe, that feel, it's just not there for me with Glocks. If someone can show me a Glock I'll like, I'll buy it. It just hasn't ever happened yet, and I've held and fired quite a few of them. They just aren't my bag.
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Postby grousemaster on Sat Jun 22, 2013 5:09 pm

XDM45 wrote:
grousemaster wrote:XD's are cheaper, and more easily replaceable, same with an M&P.....interesting he relies on a Glock to protect his life on a daily basis. I must ask XDm45, what is your experience with the Glock line of pistols? I can assume you've run a course or two with one? OR at the very minimum fired a couple?

The idea that a Kia is a superior vehicle to a Honda Civic is laughable....even from a clown like this. It's the cherry on top!


I've fired quite a few Glocks. I like the snap they have in them when they fire, but the overall feel of the gun turns me off. You know how they say first impressions matter and you can't ever get a second one? I place a lot of importance on that when it comes to guns. If I hold a gun for the first time and it doesn't feel right, I don't care how good of quality it is, how it fires, chances are, it's not a good gun for me and I'm not a good owner for it. Glocks and I are like that. We're just no good for each other. Technically, mechanically, they may be the best dang gun ever made, but if it doesn't fit like a glove, forget it. Guns are like that for me, so are musical instruments, jewelry, and a few other things as well. I don't want to have to learn to like it or to tolerate it, I want it to be right for each other from the start.

When I picked out my XDm, I held several of them before finding the one I liked. For something as personal as a gun, musical instrument, jeweler, etc, I place more importance on feel and vibe than I do on quality. Of course quality and workmanship matter too and are very important, but what good is a high-quality something you won't use or feel right with?

Technically, I think Glocks are great guns..... just not great guns for me. they are built well, LEOs all over use them, simple, easy to tear down, re-assemble, get parts for, etc....all great things.... but that vibe, that feel, it's just not there for me with Glocks. If someone can show me a Glock I'll like, I'll buy it. It just hasn't ever happened yet, and I've held and fired quite a few of them. They just aren't my bag.


That's right, you also claim the tolerances on the XDm varies so much, that when holding several of the exact same model you noticed differences in "feel". I've gotta call BS on that one my man ;). I didn't like Glocks at all when I first started shooting.....I didn't like the "feel" either. I've since stopped judging guns on how they "feel" because I don't usually walk around with a gun in my hand enough to need that comfort. How they shoot is what matters to me. Revolvers generally all "feel" awkward in my hand....buy can they shoot though.
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Re: Re:

Postby grousemaster on Sat Jun 22, 2013 5:09 pm

XDM45 wrote:
grousemaster wrote:XD's are cheaper, and more easily replaceable, same with an M&P.....interesting he relies on a Glock to protect his life on a daily basis. I must ask XDm45, what is your experience with the Glock line of pistols? I can assume you've run a course or two with one? OR at the very minimum fired a couple?

The idea that a Kia is a superior vehicle to a Honda Civic is laughable....even from a clown like this. It's the cherry on top!


I've fired quite a few Glocks. I like the snap they have in them when they fire, but the overall feel of the gun turns me off. You know how they say first impressions matter and you can't ever get a second one? I place a lot of importance on that when it comes to guns. If I hold a gun for the first time and it doesn't feel right, I don't care how good of quality it is, how it fires, chances are, it's not a good gun for me and I'm not a good owner for it. Glocks and I are like that. We're just no good for each other. Technically, mechanically, they may be the best dang gun ever made, but if it doesn't fit like a glove, forget it. Guns are like that for me, so are musical instruments, jewelry, and a few other things as well. I don't want to have to learn to like it or to tolerate it, I want it to be right for each other from the start.

When I picked out my XDm, I held several of them before finding the one I liked. For something as personal as a gun, musical instrument, jeweler, etc, I place more importance on feel and vibe than I do on quality. Of course quality and workmanship matter too and are very important, but what good is a high-quality something you won't use or feel right with?

Technically, I think Glocks are great guns..... just not great guns for me. they are built well, LEOs all over use them, simple, easy to tear down, re-assemble, get parts for, etc....all great things.... but that vibe, that feel, it's just not there for me with Glocks. If someone can show me a Glock I'll like, I'll buy it. It just hasn't ever happened yet, and I've held and fired quite a few of them. They just aren't my bag.


That's right, you also claim the tolerances on the XDm varies so much, that when holding several of the exact same model you noticed differences in "feel". I've gotta call BS on that one my man ;). I didn't like Glocks at all when I first started shooting.....I didn't like the "feel" either. I've since stopped judging guns on how they "feel" because I don't usually walk around with a gun in my hand enough to need that comfort. How they shoot is what matters to me. Revolvers generally all "feel" awkward in my hand....buy can they shoot though.
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The man speaks his truth about Glocks and I happen to agree

Postby Evad on Sat Jun 22, 2013 5:37 pm

grousemaster wrote:That's right, you also claim the tolerances on the XDm varies so much, that when holding several of the exact same model you noticed differences in "feel". I've gotta call BS on that one my man ;). I didn't like Glocks at all when I first started shooting.....I didn't like the "feel" either. I've since stopped judging guns on how they "feel" because I don't usually walk around with a gun in my hand enough to need that comfort. How they shoot is what matters to me. Revolvers generally all "feel" awkward in my hand....buy can they shoot though.


It's obvious, the manufacturing of the XD frame is so sloppy that they feel different ;). Or, the spirit of the gun spoke to him. That could be it.

But, hold one glock and you've held most. Darn that quality manufacturing making them feel the same.
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Re: The man speaks his truth about Glocks and I happen to agree

Postby grousemaster on Sat Jun 22, 2013 6:16 pm

Evad wrote:
grousemaster wrote:That's right, you also claim the tolerances on the XDm varies so much, that when holding several of the exact same model you noticed differences in "feel". I've gotta call BS on that one my man ;). I didn't like Glocks at all when I first started shooting.....I didn't like the "feel" either. I've since stopped judging guns on how they "feel" because I don't usually walk around with a gun in my hand enough to need that comfort. How they shoot is what matters to me. Revolvers generally all "feel" awkward in my hand....buy can they shoot though.


It's obvious, the manufacturing of the XD frame is so sloppy that they feel different ;). Or, the spirit of the gun spoke to him. That could be it.

But, hold one glock and you've held most. Darn that quality manufacturing making them feel the same.



XDM45 said the XDM's felt different from gun to gun....unless I'm mistaken
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Re: The man speaks his truth about Glocks and I happen to agree

Postby tenmilmag on Sat Jun 22, 2013 6:47 pm

Could be XD was referring to the different feel of the various XD models? I can't believe tolerances for high power high quality handguns such as Springfield would vary so that one of the same model would noticibly hold different in your hand. But then again no two of anything are quite exactly alike, and when you are lucky enough to have several to choose from, you choose one over the others for one reason or another, right? so there you have it. ;)
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Re: The man speaks his truth about Glocks and I happen to agree

Postby XDM45 on Sat Jun 22, 2013 6:47 pm

grousemaster wrote:
Evad wrote:
grousemaster wrote:That's right, you also claim the tolerances on the XDm varies so much, that when holding several of the exact same model you noticed differences in "feel". I've gotta call BS on that one my man ;). I didn't like Glocks at all when I first started shooting.....I didn't like the "feel" either. I've since stopped judging guns on how they "feel" because I don't usually walk around with a gun in my hand enough to need that comfort. How they shoot is what matters to me. Revolvers generally all "feel" awkward in my hand....buy can they shoot though.


It's obvious, the manufacturing of the XD frame is so sloppy that they feel different ;). Or, the spirit of the gun spoke to him. That could be it.

But, hold one glock and you've held most. Darn that quality manufacturing making them feel the same.


XDM45 said the XDM's felt different from gun to gun....unless I'm mistaken


No, you're correct on what I said.

So you're telling me that if you have 5 models of the exact same gun, and one of them was yours and the other 4 were not.... you're telling me that with your eyes closes, on feel alone, you couldn't tell which gun was yours? You wouldn't feel any difference? If not, then I'm surprised, but ok. Maybe not everyone is so aware.

I never debated the technical aspect, I emphasized the feel part. Ask any musician that example above with guns vs. guitars, I bet they would be able to pick out their guitar based on the feel of it. Maybe it's just a musician thing, but to me, it's important. If it's not to someone else, cool...but that doesn't change how it is for me....... and why would it matter to someone else how I choose a gun, guitar or anything else anyway? Feel free to call b.s., that's your opinion, and it does not change or negate mine. I'll continue to do what I do, just like everyone else does whatever it is they choose to do. there is no right or wrong for everyone, only the individual. For me, it's right to trust my gut, to trust feel. Why is that a problem for you or anyone else, really?
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